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Never used JPIV much especially after it moved to T4, but played a game with a lot of JPIV recently and found camo useless because of next:
- you fire
- enemy fires back
- you cloak and reload
- enemy reloads
- you fire (and reveal unit)
- reloaded enemy fires back.
Described duel with SU-85.
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Nope, JPIV is smaller by 32 cm. I know it's not a lot, but it's something.
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The Jagdpanzer IV probably learned from a Tactical Genius.
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Not enough learning I'm afraid if implemented properly camo would be a vet ability for KT.
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Nope, JPIV is smaller by 32 cm. I know it's not a lot, but it's something.
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Never used JPIV much especially after it moved to T4, but played a game with a lot of JPIV recently and found camo useless because of next:
- you fire
- enemy fires back
- you cloak and reload
- enemy reloads
- you fire (and reveal unit)
- reloaded enemy fires back.
Described duel with SU-85.
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Well if we are crying about the JPIV camo, why is nobody talking about the luchs's camo? I don't have a problem with both, but i don't see anybody talking about the luchs which has almost the same camo "problem" as the jpiv (?), or i am just stupid and i can't read which could be the case 2
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The problem is that the two camos are not the same at all.
Luchs:
- 400 HP
- 40 gun range
- 20 range needed to detect camo
JP4
- 640 HP (becomes 800 HP with vet)
- 60 gun range
- 10 range needed to detect camo
Note that there's also a huge disparity between the intended roles of the two units. The Luchs has to go up close to deal damage, whereas the JPIV can safely stay in the rear and do it's thing.
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Well if we are crying about the JPIV camo, why is nobody talking about the luchs's camo? I don't have a problem with both, but i don't see anybody talking about the luchs which has almost the same camo "problem" as the jpiv (?), or i am just stupid and i can't read which could be the case 2
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It's been brought up before. Only fix needed is to limit stealth engagement to out of combat only. One of the most frustrating parts of this game is the re-stealth of a 40 ton tank that is engaged in a tank battle.
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The luchs is different because it's detection range is HUGE, it also tends to immediately uncloak itself by firing, unless you go hold fire, in which case it's just to slowly crawl away from danger. I'd be happy if luchs had another vet ability, like an APCR ability.
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I like the cloak from the luchs. And it would be "OP" if you could get out of the battlefield really quick...
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