Partysons interfering with the design and pacing of the game
15 May 2016, 22:26 PM
#21
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Invissed some posts. Try to keep things relevant.
The internal battery has run dry, the game can now be played. However, clock based events will no longer occur.
15 May 2016, 22:26 PM
#22
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Partisans drop like flies have a really high reinforcement cost per model (27mp iirc) which is almost as much a gren model. They scale pretty horribly and are VERY weak in combat.
^ This
Partisans are pretty much only good for that one time Surprise! ambush after that they are generally pretty much just a source of MP bleed.
Besides, the doctrine has no armor call-in or off-map ability, which limits your late game and (current) pretty lackluster Soviet T4.
^ This
Partisans are pretty much only good for that one time Surprise! ambush after that they are generally pretty much just a source of MP bleed.
Besides, the doctrine has no armor call-in or off-map ability, which limits your late game and (current) pretty lackluster Soviet T4.
15 May 2016, 22:27 PM
#23
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I don't think anything I said was irrelevant. You're complaining about something that's not worth complaining about because no one agrees with your point of view. Learn to counter the unit effectively. Maybe subscribe to HelpingHans and he can coach you.
Look mate, before raging like that again you might think about reading things thoroughly before going mad. There was zero hostility in my post and it was far from being a post-loss rage/grieving. Let's exchange some ideas will ya?
Would you like it if JLI jumped out with their camos active or STs were already equipped with shrecks/STGs etc
Mind you it is in the lobby, so calm down
I am looking for some smart justifications. Try your best.
usf
ostheer
15 May 2016, 22:30 PM
#24
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The classic response when you know you're wrong and have nothing intelligent or constructive to say: u mad bro?
I see through you. I'm done here. Peace.
I see through you. I'm done here. Peace.
15 May 2016, 22:32 PM
#25
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Permanently BannedThe classic response when you know you're wrong and have nothing intelligent or constructive to say: u mad bro?Thank you for participating.
I see through you. I'm done here. Peace.
I am reading your opinions and having a more neutral look at your tips and explanations.
usfostheer
15 May 2016, 22:44 PM
#27
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Look mate, before raging like that again you might think about reading things thoroughly before going mad. There was zero hostility in my post and it was far from being a post-loss rage/grieving. Let's exchange some ideas will ya?
Well I don't like JLI popping out of a building and insta-gibbing my retreating vet 3 reefermen with 20 HP because they can snipe units with less than 60% HP.
I wonder if there is a single allied unit that doesn't make falsealarm run behind moms dress...
Rear Echleons? Wait, I remember the Volley Fire....
Ambulance?
15 May 2016, 22:48 PM
#28
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15 May 2016, 22:50 PM
#29
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Rear Echleons?
Acually : https://www.coh2.org/file/11672/zooblob.jpg
And why would you fall back with only one dude left and even that loner has less than *%70 health? Even Partiz can wipe that guy out.
usfostheer
15 May 2016, 23:00 PM
#30
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servant to the vet 5 königskübel
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fan of the illustrious black prince
b4 and soviet FHQ enthusiast
fan of the illustrious black prince
15 May 2016, 23:10 PM
#31
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usfostheer
15 May 2016, 23:29 PM
#32
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Acually : https://www.coh2.org/file/11672/zooblob.jpg
Damn that's one fearsome blob, 2 REs (on second look one of them has that leet 5th man at Vet 3) *and* a Captain!? Holy shit, you'd need like a KT and like 2-3 MG42s to stop that at the very least.
#StopREBlobs
15 May 2016, 23:57 PM
#33
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I don't think I've ever seen a Partisan squad, regular or not, in any game ever.
16 May 2016, 00:26 AM
#34
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complaining about partisans.. really.
Falls are fine though right? maybe we should buff them.
/s
Falls are fine though right? maybe we should buff them.
/s
16 May 2016, 02:51 AM
#35
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I've seen falls do way more damage than partisans. Falls can come out near a USA forward area, timed right at retreat, kill the captain, the retreating squads, and the ambulance. All but ending the game. Partisans are also not the only AT unit with at grenades, the british AT section can come with boys rifle and at grenades.
29 Jul 2014, 12:16 PM by siuking666:
T34/76 is NOT a joke on my hands; Maybe on your hands you make it suck shit? but on me, No. I can kill a stug with a little micro, go toe to toe with a Panzer 4. Is it a joke? LOL T34/85 is apparently a very good tank. But no one says it "one hit wipe" or elefant penetration; up to a point i think this little medium tank just have too much health and too much firepower with that fuel cost.
16 May 2016, 04:23 AM
#36
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The only issue is a more general issue of being able to pop out infiltrators whenever you damn well please. So either you waste time wiring and mining off every doorway or keep units in garrisons.
If it was restricted to friendly or even neutral territory, sure, but not enemy territory.
The 2nd and 3rd time you might not be hit as hard, but the 1st time on a building pop can be devastating as you haven't predicted your opponents lock-in, particularly vs support weapons.
If it was restricted to friendly or even neutral territory, sure, but not enemy territory.
The 2nd and 3rd time you might not be hit as hard, but the 1st time on a building pop can be devastating as you haven't predicted your opponents lock-in, particularly vs support weapons.
16 May 2016, 04:59 AM
#37
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But aren't they like absolute shite in performance?
16 May 2016, 07:17 AM
#38
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Partisans are the only spawning unit that the cost to call them in is the actual cost of the unit and one does not pay a premium. That makes them some of the most cost efficient spawning units.
16 May 2016, 07:39 AM
#39
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Some infiltration units (Partisans and JLI) are extremely cheap for what they offer. However, as Miragefla briefly explained, the issue is more general, and has to do with infiltration units.
That could be one solution.
Another solution which would allow infiltration units to spawn from any building, without being completely hair-tearingly annoying would be the following:
- All infiltration units spawn with default rifle weapons (like Stormtroopers), and NO ABILITIES
- In order to get access to their hard-hitting weapons and abilities, the infiltration units will have to complete a combat pack upgrade
- The upgrade costs NOTHING but takes 30 seconds to upgrade
- Infiltration units that currently get no stealth no stealth at Vet0 (e.g., Falls, JLI), get a rudimentary version of stealth at Vet0, similar to OST camouflage (if you move, the stealth is gone).
The idea is that you spawn your unit, you keep and them stealthed somewhere while you research the upgrade. Once the upgrade is done, you can use your unit as intended. This forces the player to pre-plan their infiltration attacks, rather than pull yet-another infiltration unit out of their arses in mid-combat.
If it was restricted to friendly or even neutral territory, sure, but not enemy territory.
That could be one solution.
Another solution which would allow infiltration units to spawn from any building, without being completely hair-tearingly annoying would be the following:
- All infiltration units spawn with default rifle weapons (like Stormtroopers), and NO ABILITIES
- In order to get access to their hard-hitting weapons and abilities, the infiltration units will have to complete a combat pack upgrade
- The upgrade costs NOTHING but takes 30 seconds to upgrade
- Infiltration units that currently get no stealth no stealth at Vet0 (e.g., Falls, JLI), get a rudimentary version of stealth at Vet0, similar to OST camouflage (if you move, the stealth is gone).
The idea is that you spawn your unit, you keep and them stealthed somewhere while you research the upgrade. Once the upgrade is done, you can use your unit as intended. This forces the player to pre-plan their infiltration attacks, rather than pull yet-another infiltration unit out of their arses in mid-combat.
You have a great idea that improves the QoL aspects of the game? Please, drop your idea here:
https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions
Check out Cruzz's DPS calculator:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7gwy65JLbSRMEJ3M2ZPandMMW8/view?usp=sharing
(Download the file, open it with your browser)
https://www.coh2.org/topic/57860/some-qol-suggestions
Check out Cruzz's DPS calculator:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B7gwy65JLbSRMEJ3M2ZPandMMW8/view?usp=sharing
(Download the file, open it with your browser)
16 May 2016, 08:15 AM
#40
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Add cooldown on AT nade after you spawn them - problem solved.
+1 only thing which is broken about them is spawn+shrek hit+at grenade= dead vehicle 90% of cases.
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Nickbn: and again someone else replies. I mean come on guys. Give @adamírcz a chance
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Rosbone: It is an indicator of the very short sighted capitalist view that plagues any company where leadership does not understand the product.
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Rosbone: They dont care about Coh3 or Coh in general. They are just trying to grab cash by ripping off the small user base they have.
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Rosbone: So it was a systemic failure across multiple disciplines and check points.
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Rosbone: Knowing how companies work, I imagine a new hire making the menus. The API they are using is complicated and things were hard to figure out. But at some point QA or management should have addressed these things. Usually within 6 months of starting.
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