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UKF in its current state does not belong to COH2

13 Mar 2016, 23:26 PM
#1
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So unless this expansion pack is relic's scorched earth strategy in order to abandon this game forever while milking some little cash, they should make some quick adjustments or the playerbase will shrink and go extinct in no time. There are a couple of issues;


No clear disadvantageStrong support tiers and units are there to make up for their weak inf? Nah that is the SU Aye? Tommies beat the most elite AI units, sappers can rekt their much more expensive counterparts. So you wonder why they have the best HMG in game, Most durable and sniper(Vet, easy to gain) with high lategame value, and antimatter emplacement.

Ridiculously OP vehicles.Starting from the cromwell which can either push back or nitrocharge a panther and completely destroy it all for a mere 110 fuel cost. And then there are comet blobs and centaurs. The former has the speed of a light car while being capable of destroying the heaviest of heavies and the latter does not even allow units to fall back.

Emplacements - Cheap, no counter. That's about it.



Possible solutions, any one should be enough;
- Increase the cost of their emplacement. 600 MP minimum.
- Give OstInTears non-doc hard-counters or semi-hard-counters.
- Reduce the cost of leFH to 400MP. Increase their damage against buildings.
- Reduce the BOF ROF, increase the vet requirement for the pit and add a fuel cost.

As for vehicles;

- Increase the fuel cost for cromwell to 140.
- Reduce the comest's speed by %15 at the very least.
- Increase the fuel cost for cenatur to 125.


Note: This is not intended to harm anyone's feeling. Please have some tolerance and discuss the issue.
13 Mar 2016, 23:31 PM
#2
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as for penile:

- decrease amount of threads you can start by 99%

- decrease amount of posts you can post by roughly 80%
13 Mar 2016, 23:32 PM
#3
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^Adding it to our database thanks; read the notice at the bottom of OP please, cheers.
13 Mar 2016, 23:35 PM
#4
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Note: This is not intended to harm anyone's feeling. Please have some tolerance and discuss the nonissue.


Fixed that for you.
13 Mar 2016, 23:36 PM
#5
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as for penile:

- decrease amount of threads you can start by 99%

- decrease amount of posts you can post by roughly 80%


Whoever lives closest to penile, please apply the patch literally on hands with a nerf bat.

Or any other kind of bat, baseball one will do.
13 Mar 2016, 23:38 PM
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13 Mar 2016, 23:40 PM
#8
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Don't be this guy. Discuss smartly.


Place that photo in your signature already. At least the quality of the post will be signed correctly.
13 Mar 2016, 23:51 PM
#10
avatar of Aerohank

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It is as though you tried your best to be wrong on every point you made.
14 Mar 2016, 00:07 AM
#12
avatar of Stug life

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I Think the only problem with Brit is the new doctrine.
Yea they are really different from the other faction but are somewhat balanced
14 Mar 2016, 00:08 AM
#13
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Mods on this site need to start cutting down the amount of useless shitposts on this site. OP makes a topic intending to spur balance discussion with some clear, succinct points along with explanations and literally every single post in this thread so far is absolute trash posted by what appears to be 13 year olds
14 Mar 2016, 00:12 AM
#14
avatar of Stug life

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fuel cost for cromwell to 140.
- Reduce the comest's speed by %15 at the very least.
- Increase the fuel cost for cenatur to 125.


About the centaur I think we could compare it to the ostwind and start the changes from there
For Cromwell I would just give better AI for inf so the can easier avoid crush and not to instantly retreat if you see a Cromwell
14 Mar 2016, 00:18 AM
#15
avatar of Hans G. Schultz

Posts: 875 | Subs: 2

Might as well just scrap this thread. It'll only get shittier.
14 Mar 2016, 01:50 AM
#16
avatar of Svanh

Posts: 181

So unless this expansion pack is relic's scorched earth strategy in order to abandon this game forever while milking some little cash, they should make some quick adjustments or the playerbase will shrink and go extinct in no time. There are a couple of issues;


No clear disadvantageStrong support tiers and units are there to make up for their weak inf? Nah that is the SU Aye? Tommies beat the most elite AI units, sappers can rekt their much more expensive counterparts. So you wonder why they have the best HMG in game, Most durable and sniper(Vet, easy to gain) with high lategame value, and antimatter emplacement.

Ridiculously OP vehicles.Starting from the cromwell which can either push back or nitrocharge a panther and completely destroy it all for a mere 110 fuel cost. And then there are comet blobs and centaurs. The former has the speed of a light car while being capable of destroying the heaviest of heavies and the latter does not even allow units to fall back.

Emplacements - Cheap, no counter. That's about it.



Possible solutions, any one should be enough;
- Increase the cost of their emplacement. 600 MP minimum.
- Give OstInTears non-doc hard-counters or semi-hard-counters.
- Reduce the cost of leFH to 400MP. Increase their damage against buildings.
- Reduce the BOF ROF, increase the vet requirement for the pit and add a fuel cost.

As for vehicles;

- Increase the fuel cost for cromwell to 140.
- Reduce the comest's speed by %15 at the very least.
- Increase the fuel cost for cenatur to 125.


Note: This is not intended to harm anyone's feeling. Please have some tolerance and discuss the issue.

No clear disadvantage?

- IS must be used in cover and at long range.
- Commandos are powerful but are short-ranged and don't vet well.
- Royal Engineers are OP but only with upgrades and vet.
- The Vickers is one of the most expensive MGs in the game.
- The UKF currently have a lacklustre mid-game due to their lack of good light vehicle counters.

Ridiculously OP vehicles?

- The Centaur is fairly slow and can be retreated from.
- The Cromwell is underpriced but shouldn't cost more than 125-130 fuel.
- A Comet costs more than a Panther with better AI and maneuverability, worse AT and worse veterancy.

Emplacements - Cheap, no counter?

- I believe you mean "Bofors - Cheap, no good counter until mid-game"

I suggest you either play a few UKF games or check the stats of their units (preferably both) to better appreciate the weaknesses of the faction.
14 Mar 2016, 02:28 AM
#17
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Posts: 1890 | Subs: 1

So far 9 shitposts. Duh nothing new.


Or you know... maybe the fact that literally no one has agreed with you maybe should make you reevaluate your thoughts and conclusions on Brits instead of just dismissing them?

Anybody who has played Brits know they have their disadvantages... stuff like lacking a vehicle snare, lacking reliable hand-held AT that can hit anything faster than a heavy tank, lacking mobile indirect fire, the list goes on...

Try playing as UKF before creating a nerf thread: you'll get a rude awakening after the first time you lose because your expensive emplacement got rekt while Brace was on cooldown or you go Bofors and then have a Luches or 222 swarm haunt you over the rest of the map because the rest of you non-AEC light vehicle counters suck.
14 Mar 2016, 02:39 AM
#18
avatar of Spinflight

Posts: 680

Damn...

If only he'd claimed the Piat was OP someone could have won points on the Piat Challenge.

I mean come on, he mentioned every other crap unit.

#conspiracy
14 Mar 2016, 02:45 AM
#19
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Posts: 276

guys should i get orville redenbacher or joly time i cant figure
14 Mar 2016, 02:45 AM
#20
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Damn...

If only he'd claimed the Piat was OP someone could have won points on the Piat Challenge.

I mean come on, he mentioned every other crap unit.

#conspiracy


You can't just say Piat OP...

You must KNOW Piat OP.
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