attack ground for all mg's

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2015, 08:30 AMSarantini

guys attack ground is literally just a true/false variable and can be enabled with any weapon

Jump back to quoted post18 Feb 2015, 19:19 PMImagelessbean

This would completely negate smoke, so it's a no from me.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2015, 10:54 AMferwiner

The problem is not the toggle but the way it will change the behaviour of the unit. Here is how damage is calculated in coh2:
Taking into consideration size of the target, range and weapon data like accurancy game calculates for every single shot if it hits the enemy the unit is aiming on or not. If it hits armour value is calcualated and enemy receives damage. If it doesn't the shot hits the ground (but it cannot hit another unit, only ground or neutral objects). Small arms have no aoe so the place it hits doesn't matter, even if the soldier lies there the shot will go through dealing no damage. That's basically why blobbing is so benefitial and why mg's can have attack ground but it will do nothing.
While attacking ground you simply can either shoot the ground or shoot the ground, enemy soldiers will avoid bullets like in matrix.
Ofc the "suppress area" ability may patrially solve the problem, It was not in the game when the topic was discussed for the first time, during "shocks uber alles" phase of the game long before wfa.

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2015, 13:51 PMTensaiOni

Suppression would probably still work (through AoE suppression value).

Jump back to quoted post20 Feb 2015, 14:18 PMKatitof

Isn't that calculated on the base of squad/vehicle which is being attacked primarly?
Which would mean that if nothing is attacked, then there is no source of AoE suppression.

Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2015, 01:55 AMMr. Someguy

Airborne with M1919's have an AoE suppression ability.

Jump back to quoted post19 Feb 2015, 00:07 AM☭ Калашникова ☭

With the exception of the Maxim MG's for the most part suck right now.

MG-42 has problems doing its job vs allied infantry
MG-34 has the same problem (Although for very cheap)
M2HB Gets squished by gren and ober blobs
DsHK Not very high suppression and expensive to boot.

MG42 and 34 should be better at its role.

M2HB and DsHK damage output should be way higher.
(12.7x99 & 12.7x108mm)

Two different classes of weapon between the sets of two.

Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2015, 04:02 AMilGetUSomDay

exception of the maxim? Maxims are terrible.

Jump back to quoted post26 Feb 2015, 03:18 AMASneakyFox

its not even an issue with smoke, itd fundementaly break the unit. Whats to stop you from just leaving the MG on attack ground the whole game? youd be suppressing units that are beyond the MGs sight range.