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Why do the ISU doctrines have so much strong stuff in them like Shocks, Guards, Mark Target, Il2. Just too much for one single doctrine.
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Molotov just had a flame crit back in the day, the same way all flame weapons did. Thats why it was so long to throw, because it potentually could have inta wipe few models.
Question is, why in a gods name its still isnt buffed, because flame crits gone like ages ago. Its also fun to see that we have EXCACT same ability for USF now, but with normal throwing time.
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a normal throw time would do wonders for the ability.
the fact that you are paying (or not paying, because its garbage) for an ability that it flat out worse than others in the same vein that are free is an enigma to me.
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Once more it there in patch notes in black and white.
"The intent isn’t for a full health T34 to ram other vehicles; instead, ram should be used when the T34 is near death to highlight its usage as a last resort type ability."
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It get normal speed as a vet bonus.
vet gating an ability yo have to pay specificly for isnt the way to go. until vet 2 the ability is effectivly useless and theres no reason for the performance to be neutered until its 3/4 the way through its vet. its even worse that you have to pay a full 20 mu for it in its neutered state. id sooner the ability be free with a long ass cooldown and improve it with vet if thats the way its going to be, that at least justifies an unlock cost and poor performance.
VG incendiary grenade where designed to as counter to maxim spam so it not the best thing to compare them with to begin with. (And you aware how I feel about them).
flame nade was added to counter garrisons as OKW struggled vs them, regardless the comparison is as clear as any in game due to the similarities between volks and cons. the flame nade would be ok on sturms, so that every garrison or engagement involving cover isnt instantly in favor of volks. the saturation of the flame nade also heavily impacts mgs whom often dont suppress quickly enough once there is any cover at all in their arcs. a dug in MG should be countering infantry, not countered by run of the mill mainlines crawling through a hail of gunfire.
long and short is the flame nade defies balance an molitovs are underpowered and overpriced when compared to literally anything similar in price point or performance..
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How would you know?
Axis gets both for free.
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Can’t you find some other outlet for your issues. You are incredibly tedious
Maybe it's 'cause the Axis players aren't a bunch of forum crybabies, and they keep their cool and fight the uphill battle, unlike some of their "allied" counterparts.
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Soviet have access to more doctrinal units in more commander than any other faction. The power level of these unit is above average and so is there cost efficiency. The "old design" come with certain perks.
There is little indication that the Soviet faction is actually weaker the Ostheer/OKW. The only trouble it had so far was against osttruppen possibly even vs 5 men grenadiers and those doctrines are being nerf.
T-34/76 was meant to be a flanker tank and that is why it penetration is increased with range more than other units.
Once more it there in patch notes in black and white.
"The intent isn’t for a full health T34 to ram other vehicles; instead, ram should be used when the T34 is near death to highlight its usage as a last resort type ability."
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what is this ram original intent you talk about?
it is not counter elefant or jt. it was just a fun ability. it was used to ram panthers and p4 too.
coh is known to try fun ability.
this patch is to exactly solve just that, to discourage build t3476 to ram heavies. but to encourage more general use of t3476 culmulating to having a choice to use the ram as a last resort fun ability disabling axis tanks.
now we just need to make t3476 cheaper and earlier for more general use. it is not a bad tank. it is fast, can crush and troll infantry.
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The indication would be pick-rates and win-rates, which are lower than others.
Conclusion: The T-34's mobility is average and penetration is poor, which doesn't make it particularly good at flanking because it doesn't really move faster than other tanks and it cannot reliably penetrate the rear armor of a heavy tank as well as any other medium tank.
He is very clearly talking about Ram's original intent, which is at odds with what the current team believes it should be for.
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He is very clearly talking about Ram's original intent, which is at odds with what the current team believes it should be for.
Update April 24th, 2014
Ram
Currently, ram is being used as a crowd control measure to disable other vehicles. The intent isn’t for a full health T34 to ram other vehicles; instead, ram should be used when the T34 is near death to highlight its usage as a last resort type ability.
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It is not at odds at all, that quote is from 2014 patchnotes from the Relic dev team itself.
Not that it matters (vision and opinions change over time), but the current change is absolutely in line with the original intent behind T-34 ram.
https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/67/coh-2-changelog/p2
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It is not at odds at all, that quote is from 2014 patchnotes from the Relic dev team itself.
Not that it matters (vision and opinions change over time), but the current change is absolutely in line with the original intent behind T-34 ram.
https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/67/coh-2-changelog/p2
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It is not at odds at all, that quote is from 2014 patchnotes from the Relic dev team itself.
Not that it matters (vision and opinions change over time), but the current change is absolutely in line with the original intent behind T-34 ram.
https://community.companyofheroes.com/discussion/67/coh-2-changelog/p2
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I had forgotten all about this. Fair enough then, I was wrong, the developers had elaborated on it in the past.
I would try to argue that in the grand scheme of things, the cheapest and easiest way to deal with a Heavy Panzer is sacrificing a T-34 and ~200 munitions does speak volumes for the effectiveness of other options. Rarely in this game is suiciding a unit the first resort, and their inability to fight an Elefant especially is something I remain concerned about. The Elefant cannot be countered by the SU-85, and T-34-76's take too long to kill it during a flank even if it is not supported (which it will always be supported). Maybe the answer is as simple as spamming as many SU-85's as possible..
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