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Thread: COH3 is pretty good now, where are the players?4 Jan 2024, 04:02 AM Personally, as a very casual coh2 and coh3 player, I like the overall direction that coh3 has moved in. I much prefer medium tanks being the general end game for team games because it feels like you have more options overall in fighting against it. Coh2 had a nasty habit of team games devolving into Panthers/super heavies vs allied TDs because they were so overwhelming against anything else. Coh3 does a much better job of structing the late game in a way that I think will be more balanced and allow greater variety of units as we get more battlegroups coming out. On the topic of heavies I do agree that currently they come out very slowly and feel less like a centerpiece even in the battlegroups that have them. However, I personally would be interested in seeing them toned down and made a bit cheaper. Right now they are sorta like super heavies in terms of cost which seems like buffing them would be the wrong way to go without forcing the coh2 meta which I strongly dislike. Instead toning down their power and making them less of a step up from the rest of the late game I think could help them find a happy middle ground. Currently we have the regular mediums like the Sherman and Panzer IV. Then above them are the premium medium tanks such as the Easy 8 and Panther. Then above those is meant to be the Tiger and Black Prince but the issue is that they are so much more above the premiums that they rarely get used. I really like where the Panther has more so ended up in coh3 as a strong addition but not so far above mediums that they become irrelevant once Panthers start rolling out. It's much better for the game that the base roster can keep up generally and then battlegroups give noticeable but not insane upgrades. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Further Evidence that COH3 is Trash13 Jul 2022, 14:48 PM Jump back to quoted post13 Jul 2022, 08:21 AMSupport Sapper Play the game, mate. No because then it doesn't support the claim that COH3 is complete trash . In: COH3 Central
Thread: Upgunning the soviets - the IS-2 14 Jan 2022, 16:03 PM Probably one of the bigger issues with the IS2 is that the 2 commanders it's in don't really help to cover the weaknesses of the IS2. Shock Rifle Frontline is overloaded with option for anti infantry so the IS2 has to compete with Shocks+KV8 and the IS2 just doesn't stand out there. Armored Assault is better for the IS2 but even here it's mostly the crew repairs that support the IS2. You can get an IS2 and back it up with T34-85s but it's also just as viable to get multiple T34-85s. Plus this doctrine doesn't offer a whole lot before mid game besides radio interception (which is really good no doubt but it isn't like Guards infantry). If you compare those to like doctrines that get a Tiger in Ostheer I think there is a notable difference. Panzer Tactician, Frag Bombs (to kill AT walls), and for the most part the different unlocks don't step on each other. There isn't a Tiger doc that also has the Panzer IVJ or an Elefant in there to compete with the Tiger. They are simply a little better aligned to have the Tiger be a core part of the strategy and cover other parts of the game/support the Tiger once it hits the field. Granted this will not change ever unless Relic randomly drops new commanders. So we're kinda stuck with this problem. The only thing that could really be improved imo is to make it a little bit better against Panthers. A small pen increase or maybe giving it deflection damage (A 122mm shell would damage regardless if it penned or not). It shouldn't curb stomp a Panther but I think it should have a decent advantage against a Panther in a 1v1 and be able to tussle with the Tiger on a bit more even ground. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: USA scotts (M8A1)13 Sep 2021, 13:30 PM Leave the Scott alone. USF already struggles in 4v4 because it's extremely limited roster. Do we really need to drag down any strategy that isn't just calliope? If something was to be hotfixed maybe a minor change to pathfinders but for the love of god don't nerf a core unit because you think it's a problem with a specific doc. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Picking vet1 ability18 Jul 2021, 14:05 PM I think it's special to the US army. It's a unique thing that gives them a huge flexibility in what your units can do. It's awesome as a thing to make the US stand out though and really does enforce them being super flexible. Germany has that Field Marshall you can choose that unlocks different things like a different grenade for your Grens among other things. And I feel like Britain will have something unique we just don't have it yet. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Black Prince Poll18 Jul 2021, 13:58 PM So I don't like the Black Prince in the game but I do understand why it's possibly being considered. It would be a unit that could go toe to toe with the German Panther and Tiger. It's a full on heavy tank for the allies which is possibly there so it feels like both sides have access to a potent heavy tank if they really want it (compared to like coh2 where the Panther was stock and the allies didn't have an equivalent). The Black Prince being a doctrinal equivalent to the Panther and Tiger which also both seem doctrinal is what makes the most sense to me as to the reason for it's inclusion. Based on the files the US forces will have a Jumbo as their "heavy" tank. So I think the need for a Black Prince isn't worth putting it in the game. There are a lot of churchill variants open with some being pretty potent heavy tanks. You have: The Churchill Mk II - Currently in the game with the 2 pounder but mislabeled as a Mk III The Churchill Mk III - Equipped with a 6 pounder which is more powerful but still outclassed by Panzer IVs firepower wise. Also notable lack of HE rounds. Churchill NA75 - A Mk III with a Sherman 75mm gun placed on it. Used mainly in North Africa and Italy with excellent performance due to strong HE rounds. This is also already in the game files. Churchill MK VII - A big redesign that made this essentially the ultimate churchill. The "Heavy Churchill" had more armor and a new QF75 gun making it all around extremely capable. Imo the VII should replace the Black Prince as although it's firepower isn't enough to reliably pen the front of a tiger or panther they will struggle also. The Tiger at least historically speaking couldn't penetrate the front without specialized AT rounds and the Panther was very close to the 152mm frontal from the heavy churchill. I think it would fix the issue of not being an actual war time vehicle while still filling the need for a strong doctrinal heavy tank similar to the jumbo for the allies. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Company of Heroes 3 German Doctrine review18 Jul 2021, 03:27 AM They seem like a core feature of the faction and you probably pick one before teching to something. Also we can see a commanders costs 100 manpower and 25 fuel to unlock (hover over it). They seem in a way like commanders yet are built in and different then whatever battlegroups end up being. Really cool stuff overall. In: COH3 Central
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Ostheer Feedback4 Jun 2021, 00:15 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Jun 2021, 21:30 PMSmaug scopes on elefant have been a thing since day one and never have I seen people crying about them being op. Its a defining feature of a doctrine. They are a special doctrinal ability and so why they are being removed from elefant. If the argument is that of a self spotting tank-destroyer, well scopes have been nerfed in the past with a timing delay and they deactivate even if the elefant rotates. Self Spotting Elefant was super powerful and there was little reason for it to have been around so long. It's requires little input to have your super heavy self spot compared to all other super heavies which still need to be spotted for. Scopes on a 222 or something like that still gives the commander better spotting than other commanders but it's gonna be easier to disrupt it now. There's a reason in 3v3 and 4v4 it's twice as included in a line up as other commanders. https://coh2stats.com/stats/week/1618790400/4v4/wermacht?statsSource=all In: COH2 Balance
Thread: will there be v4 update of commander patch23 May 2021, 15:05 PM No the patch is gonna go live now that ML5 is finished (they said this week if everything goes well but things out of their control need to happen first). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Ostheer Feedback23 May 2021, 14:39 PM Jump back to quoted post22 May 2021, 22:39 PMLewka Agreed. For one the upgrade isn't cheap and grenadiers are not the cheapest squads to reinforce. It is being argued heavily that lmg42 grens are still the most viable choice of upgrades. I think VSL grens being able to place sandbags might be a good option for them to help them maintain that 'staying power' that they need as a 5 man mainline squad. Otherwise why wait for 2 CP to upgrade to VSL when you can just reach BP1 and use LMG42s which are better and you can even use them sooner? I mean personally what I like about German Infantry Doctrine is the upgrade for Panzergren and using them alongside Grens with their smoke and mark target, but otherwise I think the doctrine is now lacking and a lot of its abilities are better off chosen from other commanders which give you more. The point of the German Infantry Doctrine (IMO) is to have more staying power with your mainlines and providing your infantry with support they need to do it I mean doesn't 5 man grens help with the staying power a good amount? Like you don't get the DPS boost from the MG42 but with 5 men it's harder to lose grens and they have more health to stay in the fight. Tbh I don't really get all these calls to buff VSL again. Like we just got out of them being the dominating meta with the last patch and they are still a pretty common 1v1 commander. Do we really need to buff them and risk making them the meta again? In: COH2 Balance