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Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - USF Feedback28 Apr 2021, 17:46 PM Jump back to quoted post28 Apr 2021, 17:25 PMProtos Angelus Or implement the current Brit version: It does not drop on the ground but directly upgrades the unit with it. (Vickers/Piat + reinforce halftruck the brits have in that commander whose name I cannot recall) This would be a really neat change. Would further make the M3 worth using since you could empower riflemen without needing to go to base. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback27 Apr 2021, 20:46 PM Jump back to quoted post27 Apr 2021, 20:44 PMChukiki Also, why are panzerwerfer and even more so katyhusha crap? katyusha cant hit anythiing unless i bring it in dangerous tank range. Both of those units are completely fine. They saturate the area and really mess up both infantry and team weapons. If your bringing close to tanks your doing something wrong. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback27 Apr 2021, 02:19 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2021, 17:26 PMZeroZeroNi I have an Idea for Soviet shock army. Replace armor vehicle detection with off map smoke barrage. Does Shock Army really need more strong abilties? I thought the rework has already made this like a top pick for certain modes. It's a premium medium + shocks + off map which is just an amazing set of abilities. Imo the commander is fine post rework. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - OKW Feedback27 Apr 2021, 02:02 AM Jump back to quoted post26 Apr 2021, 21:22 PMLady Xenarra I've been wondering for a long time how to make Scavenge Doc a more favourable doc but it had lots of flaws. Even the earlier Ostwinds don't seem to have been enough to attract ppl (runs into med tank). The volks change is an interesting one and I'm curious to see how ppl play out with it and if armor-centric builds are more likely with the better sustain. Although it may need changes itself I thought the 221 could be interesting in the doctrine. It comes early and pairs well with Volk repairs to possible pressure the enemy early. Then once upgraded it can provide a resource boost to help rush out an Ostwind or stockpiling resources for the 105mm barrage. I the 221 needs a boost in some manner but I think it's a good fit in scavenge. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Advanced Warfare Tactics25 Apr 2021, 19:38 PM Jump back to quoted post25 Apr 2021, 17:00 PMGrumpy It's certainly better than it was but without any of the high CP abilities (KV2, IS2, IL2 bombing run, etc), there isn't any reason to pick this over other commanders. There is already a conscript-themed commander so removing the conscript abilities and replacing them with something like an ammo drop and another off-map would make the commander much more interesting and differentiate it more from the other 22 soviet commanders. I think conscript support tactics and advanced warfare are different enough to warrant no changes based on that. Just for comparison with other commanders: Conscript Repair Tactics - Shares PPSH Cons and Infantry Repair Different as it has a different premium tank and doesn't have radio intercept. Armored Assault Tactics - Shares Radio Intercept and T34-85 Different because of no conscript upgrades and is much more focused towards late game. Guard Rifle Combined Arms - Shares PPSH Cons and IL2 Strafing Run Different as it has a different premium and no radio intercept. Now I can't convince anyone if the niche Advanced Warfare has is a good one but I do hope that shows a little bit that Advanced Warfare has a decent reason to remain as is due to it having a unique enough combination of abilities. It's the only commander that combines radio intercept with a CQC unit on top of a T34-85. Others may different strengths but I would argue this commander has the most flexible abilities to use with the radio intercept which gives it a good niche to exist in. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Ostheer Feedback25 Apr 2021, 03:36 AM Has anyone else tried Festing Support with it's new loadout? Honestly the commander overall seems underwhelming. It lost the LeFH which was at least one big appeal to use it in team games and I don't know if the other effects are really enough to replace it. The forward resupply station is nice and all but it still has to be built with a ambient building (which is inconsistent based on map). It hurts how effective the ability can be and tbh this seems to be the primary appeal with the commander. The other things like Mortar Halftrack and Command Panzer IV are fine things but I could just play other commanders with bigger appeals while still getting those (Spearhead has Mortar Halftrack + Tiger and other things while there are several Command Panzer doctrines to choose from). Relief Infantry is still pretty meh as an ability even after the buff and sector artillery is meh also. Unless I'm missing something a second look has made me think this commander is actually pretty bad now. In smaller game modes I would almost always just pick some other commander and in larger team games I have much better options also. Joint Operations and Close Air Support are better than this commander imo and I think those need help also (Joint needs to lose one of it's 3 buildables and CAS needs to get the Luftwaffe Offcier imo). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Ostheer Feedback24 Apr 2021, 15:17 PM Replace the AT strafe with Breakthrough Equipment in Jaeger Armor. The doctrine is all about maximizing the power of the Elefant with so many ways to give sight to it. Pioneres being able to demolish sight blockers would allow the doctrine to potentially open the map up for the elefant and I think fits pretty well thematically. However, I would say this is a decent but not overwhelming effect unlike the AT strafe which is so powerful in a doctrine like this. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Advanced Warfare Tactics24 Apr 2021, 14:56 PM Actually I misremembered the commanders. Advanced Warfare is different enough with Radio Intercept to be useful in a way other commanders like Shock Army doesn't have imo. It's the in between of the new shock army with it's shocks and T34-85 and something like armored assault which has radio intercept and the T34-85. As long the IL2 Strafing Run is a decent call in I think the commander has enough legs to stand on it isn't crucial to improve it (I think other commanders in other factions need work way more than anything in Soviets now). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Advanced Warfare Tactics24 Apr 2021, 03:33 AM Guard Rifle Combined Arms does seem like it will mostly overlap with this commander so it could make sense to give Advanced some improvement so it remains useful in some niche. I think possibly replacing the conscript repair kit would be the most sensible change. That ability is in a lot of commanders and it mostly a lower tier ability. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Soviet Feedback23 Apr 2021, 21:22 PM Partisans 270 Manpower cost Lower reinforcement cost (whatever is reasonable) Starts as a 5 man squad with x3 Mosin Nagants and x2 PPSH Also has a short range AT grenade Can specialize with x3 more PPSH or a Panzershreck and a longer range AT grenade. Pretty much you will end up paying more manpower up front but get a flexible squad that gets a little bit of both worlds from the previos versions. 2 PPSHs doesn't make them melt retreating squads but gives them more lethality up close. The short range AT nade makes them extremely useful at helping to snare or finish vehicles off. Then the upgrades would let them specialize more if you have time or had them retreat and survive. In: COH2 Balance