Sovjet NON-doctrinal healing options

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2020, 12:14 PMZeroZeroNi

Why?? ost has no easy/fast vehicle repair(repair station, crew repair, con repair) options like the sovs do. Also the airborne troops commander provides a forward reinforcement point with aura based healing supply drops. Where the hell is having advantage in one sector being offset by disadvantage in another spear going.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2020, 12:29 PMMr Carmine

Ost has panzer smoke healing and even a repair station in docs. Next to their 3 ways of healing ai upgrades and nades non doc. The fact that they repair longer is because theit t4 vehicles have more hp.

Peraonaly i would put an upgrade on the medics at t4 to go up to 6 medics for 250mp. Its not that soviets float mp so it should no be a no brainer that way. Or have the halftrack heal like the ost 251.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2020, 11:32 AM|GB| The Lnt.599

btw im sorry but if u let a sovjet have 'above average map presence' while he has to go to base for shitty heals you serious need to improve your play. 3 ladies healing 6 man models on so many squads is so time consuming.

specially when your models drop like flies because as said they are 6 man

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2020, 12:39 PMSander93

Soviets 6 men squads take longer to force off the field because of sheer hitpoints advantage alone.
Against small arms fire Concripts have 440 effective hitpoints, while Grens have only 352. Penals have 480. Panzergrenadiers have 400. A Maxim crew has 384 effective hitpoints while an HMG 42 crew has only 256. Against AOE weapons, when target size doesn't matter, Soviet squads have 480 while most German units have 320-400. Similar losses (losing 2-3 models) mean earlier retreats for German units.

Now of course this is partly compensated by most German infantry dealing more damage per model, but the other way to balance the Soviets' high durability is with slightly worse healing. They can stay on the field longer, but the catch is that they'll also take a bit longer to return. This is deliberate.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2020, 13:46 PMZeroZeroNi

M5 is also a open top HT. Do you wanna compensate for that??? Cus ost infantry are totally taken out of the fight when they are healing. Sure the 251's dps out put is a lot better than the m5, but infantry still would be able to contribute. Also cons have merger you can just keep a con squad in fully healed being able to shoot, come out merge and go back in and heal.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2020, 13:46 PMZeroZeroNi

M5 is also a open top HT. Do you wanna compensate for that??? Cus ost infantry are totally taken out of the fight when they are healing. Sure the 251's dps out put is a lot better than the m5, but infantry still would be able to contribute. Also cons have merger you can just keep a con squad in fully healed being able to shoot, come out merge and go back in and heal.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2020, 14:03 PM|GB| The Lnt.599

what about out of combat only heal, dont think that should be a problem

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2020, 14:08 PMZeroZeroNi

Shouldn't be if that can be done. But removing weaknesses from a faction who already have less weaknesses kinda seems overkill to me. I get your point, in 3v3 and 4v4 where the maps are huge it's a problem. i can't foresee this not being a problem in 1v1/2v2 though.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2020, 13:46 PMZeroZeroNi

M5 is also a open top HT. Do you wanna compensate for that??? Cus ost infantry are totally taken out of the fight when they are healing. Sure the 251's dps out put is a lot better than the m5, but infantry still would be able to contribute. Also cons have merger you can just keep a con squad in fully healed being able to shoot, come out merge and go back in and heal.

Jump back to quoted post2 Feb 2020, 11:36 AM|GB| The Lnt.599

this is about non-doctrinal healing

i agree its usefull though. But thats not what this thread is about #title Kappa