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Thread: Tank Destroyer Standardization4 Dec 2020, 00:01 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2020, 23:56 PMGrumpy Most of the early RTS's had standardization by default. The units on different sides were basically the same but with different skins. We played those games anyway because it was the early 1990's. By today's standards, those games are boring and nobody misses them, unless they're just waxing nostalgic. I like the difference in COH2's armor, other than I wish Strategic Reserves had came with a JPIV instead of a PIV. Not even Dune 2, THE OLDEST RTS had it. You're thinking of chap, half arsed money grab RTS games, or very simply ones like "Z", because all the retro RTS I know were asymmetric. Warcraft 1 being exclusively about mirrors. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback3 Dec 2020, 21:54 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2020, 20:59 PMthedarkarmadillo Ptrs is fine for the role it's supposed to fill. Soviet AT is defensive in nature and the ptrs reflects that in its plinking nature combined with ALL PTRS squads also having a snare of some sort. The ptrs is like a Molotov not a bundled nade. It denies the enemy the luxary of freedom of movement. Whats more, a powerful man AT weapon shouldn't be in the hands of 6 man squads. Most I could see is a refinement of vet that allows for faster shots on PTRS squads but ultimately the ptrs is not supposed to be more than an annoying supplement AT late game and plinking off 20 damage shots (minimum) when in range is acceptable for that job Funny you mention molotov, which was specifically adjusted through con vet to be useful later in the game. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Tank Destroyer Standardization3 Dec 2020, 20:17 PM If 60 range was all there is to TDs, we'd seen JP4 very frequently instead of Panther exclusively, which means 50 range on it was, is and will be forever fine. Same for StuG, which is dirt cheap. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] General Discussion3 Dec 2020, 20:15 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2020, 19:18 PMelchino7 I'm also curious what triggered the sniper nerf Possibly some single game from a 1v1 top player, because I can't imagine snipers being issue below absolutely top level play in very specific match-ups. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] General Discussion3 Dec 2020, 12:40 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2020, 12:38 PMLetzte Bataillon This a scenario where a mortar becomes very desirable. Combined arms effectiveness is the COH2 gold standard. This is a scenario, where one intended hardcounter gets neutered and you are forced to use another, already inferior one. If you need 2 units to overcome HMG, you might just as well ignore sniper, get another mainline inf and flank it from edges of arc. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] UKF Feedback3 Dec 2020, 12:38 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2020, 12:36 PMLetzte Bataillon Why did Infantry Sections have a capture bonus over other infantry in the first place? Because brits couldn't field as many squads as other factions, they were balanced around less numerous, but stronger post upgrades infantry. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback3 Dec 2020, 11:36 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2020, 11:31 AMGachiGasm Because follow the discussion please. Or you feel that nessesry to put your two words everywhere, whithout even reading in what context its being said. Its still incorrect, because PTRS most certainly do NOT shoot once per second. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback3 Dec 2020, 11:30 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2020, 11:27 AMGachiGasm Then its 260 damage over x2 PTRS vs 240 double zooks\schrecks\piats, if penals have same bonus damage. No, its not, not even close, because axis tanks have more then 70 armor. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback3 Dec 2020, 11:17 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2020, 10:44 AMTodore Why not just give penals the 7man upgrade at T4 to solve their lack of late game. It would even have synergy with their vet 1 ability " To the last man ". So in the end, soviets are left with a choice between 7 man cons which have mediocre firepower but great utility or 7 man penals which have good firepower but bad utility for their late game infantry. Because adding additional model to a squad is not magical solve-all-problems solution. It works well for cons because of their own stock vet as well as all the bonuses it provides. Penals wouldn't work in same context and contrary to cons, penals have 2 weapon slots. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: [Winter Balance Update] USF Feedback3 Dec 2020, 10:01 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Dec 2020, 09:49 AMGiaA I don't understand the M20 timing buff for the following reasons: A. Having snares on all rifles after teching is a massive buff for the M20 already. B. Shortens an already short early game phase. C. Most people are stuck in this weird mindset that LVs HAVE to function as a shock unit. This becomes particularly apparent in the 222 vs AEC and M20 vs 222 matchups. In both those cases the superior unit arrives around the same time, however this doesn't mean the weaker unit isn't viable anymore. You just have to protect it with snares or AT. In the Live version this is done by the LT bazooka which needs to be equipped immediately with the M20. In the patch you have snares on all your rifles in addition to this. D. The M20 provides massive utility (Sight, Mines, AA, Smoke, Harrasment) even in the later stages of the game. It doesn't have to be a pure shock unit. a) cons can also have early AT nades, but it never made M3 more viable or last longer b) arrival of lights do not end early game, arrival of light tanks does c) well, you've answered yourself here, if your light is outright destroyed or constantly zoned out, its value diminishes greatly, so it needs to pay for itself within the short window between its arrival and its hardcounter arrival, just bacause M20 or Kubel survived 20 minutes doesn't mean they actually achieved anything in last 15. d) in a perfect world, all lights are useful to some degree at all stages of the game, if only to provide sight and some support ability, in practice they are way too fragile to do anything outside of their initial shock value time window, because if it can't handle dual ATG alpha strike, its not going to provide you any value in mid to late game In: COH2 Balance