My point was who cares about historical accuracy? It's a game wehere tanks engage themselves at nearly point blank, infantry can sustain a volley of bullet and artillery has close to no range but it's breaking your immersion if there a fantasy tank? The game itself is fantasy, at leats in my opinion. Why is the black prince such a big deal I really don't get it. Feels like nitpicking. If it's about plane, having a functionning luftwaffe in the settingd of coh2 is pure fantasy aswell but nobody seems to care whatsoever for some reason...
Then why not add Space Marines and Rivendell Elves to the game? Nobody says that the game should be 1000% historically true and the tank has a rivet in the wrong place. But the game did not deviate from the canons of the Second World War, and this really worsens the immersion in the game. Also, game mechanics do not equal authenticity. The fact that the game has a small scale does not mean that it negates the authenticity of the game.
When infantry skins were shown that ruined the WWII atmosphere of immersion and authenticity by making it closer to the Rainbow Six Siege game, it caused obvious questions and denial. But when a tank is added to the game that does the same - pff, don't care. |
I also want MAUS and hell why even stop there, let's put the fuckin RATTE down there amiright?
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1000-ton "tank-fortress", sketch by Grote, USSR 1933. |
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I then thought about the black Prince and Came to a conclusion. What the heck? If the game is now the Black Prince, then why is the main US medium tank not T23? Which was produced in the amount of 248 tanks, why does the USA not have a Panther analogue of the T25 which was produced in 42 tanks? We don’t have a game about the Second World War, but a fantasy about the Second World War. And do not care that they never participated in the war and were not even planned. |
So why do we already have infrared stg44 or ostwind wich 40 of them have been made. I don't get the rant about the black prince. Like if you want historical accuraccy go study history in university. The idea of the Blcak Prince get into an acceptable range of WW2 fantasy, beacause keep in mind that coh games are WW2 fantasy, nothing else. Because playing a platton of mixed heavy tanks and a few infantry is already alternate history, the battles you have in coh games would never be a thing during WW2. So either you want an historicly accurate game wich I respect such as MoW, or SD, or you want some fun like CoH.
Big difference. STG-44 with infrared sight and Ostwind were used in combat (and the Soviet camouflage Palma-44, which is on the model of the Soviet sniper, was specially created to counter infrared sights, because ordinary clothes glow in these sights). The Black Prince is not. It's obvious, and I don't understand why you are asking this question. Yes, for a variety of games, you have to take weapons that were created by a small number. For example, if Super Pershing were added to the game, it would not break the canons. One single Super Pershing was sent to the front and participated in the battle. Black Prince, T-44 are tanks that were created during the war but did not participate in the war, their participation is an alternative history. |
None of us play COH because we think it is historically accurate. I'd play the much more realistic snooze-fest called Steel Division, then just arty and rocket the shit out of Axis heavies when I play allies, or faust Shermans with their paper-thin armor when playing Axis.
All of the factions need heavies as damage sponges, particularly in the larger game modes. It has nothing to do with historical accuracy.
Relic is trying. I'd rather they not add new features and worry more about making the existing ones less buggy but they're probably thinking that a new game needs new features.
The Black Prince is World of Tanks when the gaps in balance or design are filled with a paper tank. Is the Company of Heroes historically accurate, of course not. But this did not deviate from the canons of the Second World War. I repeat once again: if you want fancy stuff, go to an alternative history, there you can make at least the E-100 / E-75 / Tiger-2 with a 105-mm gun, no one will forbid you from this and will not tell you any pretensions. But you took the Second World War, so you agreed its limitations. I don’t see something that the Company of Heroes would be positioned as an alternative history yet. How the hell do you get the Black Prince out of the game. |
One thing is for sure, the graphics look like they are plasticine or toy soldiers. And the main screen of the game is now a splash screen from a mobile game. All this, as well as the absence of Italy at the start and the ridiculous Black Prince, just pushes me away from the game. The people who are marketing this game are getting their salaries for nothing. |
are you really still nitpicking about this one stupid tank?
dude a ww2 game without big tanks would simply not sell
and brit lovers also want a big tank. did you forget about the pershing crying here in the forum after US release without it?
I was completely indifferent that Pershing was not in the game. And yes, I will continue to believe that the Black Prince has no place in the game. The game is based on World War II, you take the time period you take its limitation. Do you want the Black Prince? Go to Operation Unthinkable and alternate history. You can add anything there: Black Prince, Centurion, Tortoise, T95 everything that did not get into the war. Leave WWII with WWII units. |
What i don't like about this discussion is that relic at least tries to make some kind of next Gen RTS.
i mean ,look at tempest rising. another Rock paper Scissors lameduck with toy tanks and clone animations and 90s gameplay, just like evry other RTS in the last 15 years
Relic is the only RTS dev who builds this kind of atmospheric and vivid battlefield experience, not even total war gets this kind of atmosphere.
and i thank relic for that.
the real problems are mobile gamers, CoD buyers witcher only players etc.
Yes, she tries so hard that she added the Black Prince. For what? The faction would have worked fine without the Black Prince. If Relic really wanted to try that instead of another Germany, the faction would be Italy without heavy tanks. With asymmetrical balance. |
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If it's Vichy France, then this battle group must have the Char D1 used by Vichy France in Africa and later by the Free French. |
CoH1 was on Essence Engine 1, CoH3 is on Essence Engine 5.
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Age of Empire 4 is also on the fifth version of the engine, as Wikipedia points out. In the reviews, already said that the Age of Empire 4 is poorly optimized and uses only one core. |
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