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grens are more costly per model and that is an issue vs say, snipers or things they can't fight back against because a couple of model losses costs more then the same on most other squads but it is supposed to balance out in infantry/infantry combat due to their increased power vs most other squads.

The German sniper has an increased fire rate to cause equal bleed, despite it severely hurting rifles and the fact panzerfusiliers are 6 men squads. Again it doesn't equal out because as we saw their reinforcement is realistically the same as conscripts.

i do tend to float more mp with soviets. probably because if you retreat after three models die with soviets you only lost half the squad but if you do the same with OKH you've lost 3/4. i also find it easier to keep soviet squads alive but i think that's because of their squad size/formation gives them increased resistance to aoe weapons. i really wish they would fix 4 man squads disappearing...

If you retreat after 3 models on cons vs volks it's 60 vs 69 MP, but people don't tend to retreat on models lost but on general health of a unit which should come to the same thing - around 4 cons for 3 volks: 80 vs 69.

I've had some success with ppsh's recently by just splitting the force:

If you've gone conscript heavy (6 cons) then split them 3 and 3, only upgrade 1st group with ppshs. Engage enemy position with 2nd group at long/mid range then push and flank with the 1st group. Many players won't change their target priority quickly enough as they cross the ground. Once they're across move the 2nd group forward as well if the enemy switches fire.

Or replace as many cons in the second group with maxims as you choose.

Ppsh cons are also a lot better at wiping units in my experience as they can burst them down so quickly and pursue well at close range.

Yeah it's basic fire and maneuver stuff, but most people just upgrade all of their cons and it really isn't worth it.

Hey guys, been seeing a lot of threads recently saying that Grens are the most expensive to reinforce basic infantry at 30 MP, compared to 20 for Sovs for example. I think this isn't really that true if you think about it.

If you lose for example, half a conscript squad early game, it's 60 manpower; the same as losing half a gren squad. While the reinforcement cost per member is different, base cons and grens are supposed to have the same DPS/health across the entire squad so fighting each other early game they probably cause an identical level of bleed. You might say that health is spread out amongst 6 models in the cons rather than 4 in the grens, but the grens have lower RA (I think health is still 40 and armour is unchanged?). All in all I think we can agree survivability is basically identical.

This means when you safe retreat a middlingly damaged gren/con squad you're going to be paying 60 MP, if you late/time a retreat when they are low; you'll be paying 90 for the gren squad and 80-100 for the cons, so you may be paying +- 10 MP on them for the entire squads reinforce.

This is all well in the early game, once LMGs show up reinforcement cost is almost guaranteed to be higher among the cons on an aggregate squad level.

My point is though, that across the board reinforcement cost is basically identical for con vs grens (the most often raised) on an aggregate level. To say one has a higher reinforcement cost than the other is a fallacy born from the fact that one member costs more than another.
The people who should really be crying are USF at 28 MP, making them the highest costing basic infantry to reinforce from minimum members at 112 MP

As for squad wiping in terms of squad size, in my experience it is really not comparable. Both sides get their 'lucky' wipes from mortars etc just as often. Grens are also hundreds of times better at wiping retreating squads with the LMG.
You shouldn't have to replace your squads due to unlucky wipes any less than the opponent, so this aggregate reinforcement cost is still applicable.

Leave talk of LMGs and Rifle Nade compared to Moli bleed out of it though (which does favour gren efficiency massively) as I feel it's a problem with lacking Conscript global upgrades/the molotov itself rather than anything else.

What do you guys think? Is gren reinforce cost still the highest in the game, or can we agree on an aggregate level it is the same or even weighted towards the allies?

So if you go rifle company would you still prioritise getting Jacksons out and not bother with EZ8s?

The both have the exact same cool down and counter-barrage is worse than the normal barrage

Yeah but I thought that the LefH's timer began from when it started firing? I haven't checked actually but someone mentioned it here.

Don't say that. Counter-barrage is best barrage
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