Profile of wooof

Relic has also said that soviets are the faction of hard counters. The game has changed since both of these statements have been made.

PPSH is doctrinal
Shock troops are doctrinal
Guards are doctrinal

Soviet's lack a non-doctrinal infantry unit that can propagate damage at range.

The one constant in life is change. It's time for some change to small weapons profiles.

to be honest, the whole "thats doctrinal" argument doesnt really work here. soviets are very reliant on doctrines BY DESIGN. this has never changed. if/when relic does a complete redesign of soviets, this may change, but it hasnt. soviets typically choose t1 or t2 and t3 or t4. each tier specializes in certain areas and its up to doctrines to fill those holes.

this idea is further supported by the fact that soviets have a shitload of call in units. of the 19 soviet commanders, 5 have ppsh, 6 have shocks and 4 have guards. that leaves only 6 commanders without ppsh, shocks or guards.

of the remaining 6 doctrines, two specialize in tanks (armored assault and industry), one specializes in weapon teams (defensive tactics), one has partisans and one has fhqs. the last doctrine is nkvd and that is just a shit doctrine. but 5 out of the remaining 6 specialize in something other than elite infantry.

They're the only core infantry that simply doesn't scale. Grenadiers get a potent LMG and are reasonably tough, Volks are very durable and get shrecks, and Rifles are, well, Rifles. Meanwhile conscripts are reduced to AT grenade dispensers, and their molotovs are OK but not anything special, not to mention you still need to invest 40ish fuel just to get that amount of minimal scaling.

ill say it one more time. CONS ARE NOT MEANT TO SCALE. relics words, not mine. read what i wrote above which shows soviets are given plenty of doctrinal options to make up for con scaling.

still funny that you say grens are "tough" and volks are "very durable" when cons have more hp than either squad.

I think the prices of T4 vehicles are fine but the T4 teching cost needs a significant decrease.

i would still never build a panther even if the tech and building were free. tigers are just so much more flexible and durable, without sacrificing a noticeable amount of AT. tiger op or panther up? not sure, but something is wrong

i actually love the panzerwerfer. if you get close before it shoots to reduce its scatter, you can almost guarantee a squad wipe. its risky, but you can just hide on the other side of trees/buidlings.

unfortunately, i never build t4 anymore. i dont find the panther worth it at all anymore. because of the teching costs, you might as well just get a tiger. you trade a bit of penetration and range for some more hp, armor and the ability to actually hit infantry.

brummbars arent bad, but i think theyre typically too risky to build one in a serious game. theyre useful in infantry heavy games, but that typically means the enemy isnt teching and is saving for heavy tanks, in which case, the last thing you want is a brummbar.

so really im not sure if t4 is the issue, or if its the differences between the tiger and panther. theres very few tanks that require a panthers penetration (kv1, kv2, isu, is2), so for anything besides that a tiger is just plain better.

Same thing with the US Infantry Squad. Sturmpios run at you and you lose. But, that's ok, they cost a bit more it's ok that they're stronger..

You COULD avoid some of they're opness in open maps, but in citymaps, where they can pop out from behind a wall? You gotta hit that T pretty soon or you can say goodbye to your squad (s).

Also, IF they weren't op how do you explain the always frequent 3 strumpios opening ?

rifles will very often beat sturm pios. if rifles sit in cover, sturms have to close the distance. like ipkai said, they deal much less damage while moving. by the time they get close, they will have taken too much damage to win. if youre getting surprised around corners, thats just poor use of rifles and good play by the sturms.

the reason you see 3 sturm starts is because volks arent very good. good luck fighting rifles with only volks. they do fairly well against cons if you can keep them at long range, but besides that theyre pretty much only useful because of schrecks and their cost lets you build more squads.