Profile of wooof

You obviously dont play this game. Rifles do not do more long range dps "than anything". (in your words)

And obers deploy with lmgs, but can be upgraded to have stg 44's

please tell me more about the game. id really like to know how much dps rifles do.

"3 horribly placed HMGs" - morons keep throwing around this tripe. The truth is, the HMGs were almost perfectly placed. I aimed them toward the point I wanted to protect, with my back towards my base, and my front towards the direction I knew he would come from. Well guess what? That is indeed the direction he came from - no flanks, no smoke, no tactics, no nothing. He went headfirst right into the kill zone.

sorry but they werent perfectly placed. 1 mg in that spot would be perfect, but 3 mgs next to each other is never perfect. 1 smoke nade wouldve made all 3 unable to shoot. the mgs should be spread out and shooting from multiple angles.

A single maxim would've had the entire blob crawling around on the ground within seconds. 3 MG34s didn't do anything except die.

maxims have really bad AOE suppression, so no, they wouldnt be able to supress that blob at all.

Anyway, I think offensively the 57mm is fine, but it dies much faster than other AT guns thanks to being a 4 man squad against firepower designed to beat 6 men ones.

ahh. this argument again. the problem is, rifles and paras can do more dps than anything at long range except obers once you upgrade them with lmgs. the difference is still fairly small though (about 25 dps compared to 28). guards also do about as much damage as lmg grens once they have DPs.

then if you want to talk close range units, shocks obviously win hands down with over 70 dps. lieutenant does about 54 dps at close range. for comparison, pgrens/sturm pios only do about 59. double bar rifles match falls at close and long range and also out dps fusiliers at all ranges.

two weapon upgrades for usf squads is expensive, but the point is there are plenty of soviet and american squads that do about as much if not more dps than axis infantry.

since upgrades are already so expensive, bazookas should be made cheaper. if they were 90 munitions (like i saw someone suggest earlier), i doubt people would get them when you could have 1.5 bars/lmgs for the price unless you made them as good or better than schrecks. making them cheap would make them more accessible and compatible with other upgrades

Vetting ATguns is easy.
Keeping them alive without a doctrinal hmg is harder.

what does that even mean? you need a dshk to keep a zis alive? maxim spam not good enough?

I got to rank 16 AT with 16 wins to 1 loss with Americans purely by spamming Rifle/LMGs backed up by the Captain's tier with AT-Guns straight into an Easy-8 or Jackson spam with two Soviet support players (One going a Mark Target doctrine and one a B-4 doctrine).

i think people just dont get captains enough. i see lieutenant and AA ht far more often. they have a much bigger impact when they show up since theyre really good AI and there wont be many vehicles at that point.

I wouldn't necessarily call the M1 AT Gun the best AT gun in the game - I still personally find the PaK 40 (when Target Weakspot behaves) to be the best AT gun in the game. But back to the USF AT. :3

id say its atleast the second best if not the best. i think raketen is the worst because of its ready aim time, range, RoF and tendency to shoot the ground. being able to retreat it is nice, but i actually dont like to garrison them.

i think zis is the 2nd worst because of its RoF, though the 6 man squad and barrage make it better than raketen.

its hard to say which is better between the pak and the 57mm. pak has a slight RoF advantage, but its vet ability works maybe 20% of the time for me now. if you have munitions for AP rounds, the 57mm will pretty much match the pak in pen, but having forward sight and 10 more range is a big advantage. theres plenty of times when a tank barely gets out of sight from a pak with 1 hit left. a 57mm would get that kill.

id say as long as target weak point is broken and if the americans have munitions to spare, the 57mm is better. itd probably be pretty much a tie for me if they fix weak point.