Then whats your opinion about the us flak track?
what about it? |
this, this and this. right now its behaving like a super beefed up 222 with more hp, escape abilities, speed and a powerful main gun.
more importantly, it needs either sight or range, right now it can spot for itself and shoot, with schrecks support, puma beats mediums who should be their hardest counters.
well considering its timing and cost, it should function like a beefed up 222. also, why would a medium tank be its hardest counter? the puma is actually meant to be a counter to medium tanks in my opinion. its penetration makes it way overkill for light vehicles.
i think the puma does need a nerf, but these arent the reasons why. |
Forum is run by soviet whiners they want to nerf the only unit that has any sort of credibility in the OKW arsenal. Yet it still gets owned by the US AA truck in a 1v1 fight. Amazing
attacking anyone who disagrees with you isnt really helping your case. hes highly ranked in okw 1v1. |
I do think 375 armor is a bit much, but then again the Tiger still has superior survivability via Blitz, and most doctrines that have it also pack smoke. So it's not like like the IS-2 is really OP.
theres only one commander with smoke and tigers. spearhead |
Everything there except the pak has no business engaging an IS-2 frontally.
Paks, Panthers and Tigers counter the IS-2, not mid-game anti-infantry tanks.
did you not see two tigers there?
All of the anecdotal video evidence in this thread is useless. We KNOW the actual values of the armor, and the values of accuracy and penetration of AT weapons. Videos of unlucky RNG RNG add nothing to what we already know. Balance should also not be made on videos of unlucky RNG rolls.
its really not a video of RNG when tiger has less than 50% chance to pen at max range |
It really should have a little lower aim time. To keep the rate of fire the same just increase the reload.
seems like the issue is ready aim, not fire aim. modifying ready aim wouldnt increase rate of fire, only the time before the first shot.
as for the set up time, it seems to be set to false, so that shouldnt have any impact |
You're discounting the Tiger's faster rate of fire as far as I know.
except the is2 rate of fire got buffed a few patches ago as well. the difference is now 5.25 seconds vs 6.65.
1.4 seconds is not nearly enough to make up for the huge difference in chance to pen.
Why don´t we take into account support from 1 zis and 1 pak40 (which is most likely a real situation)?
well you can theory craft and add as many units to the situation as youd like. feel free. tiger vs is2 was what was being discussed and i answered. is2 beats a tiger. |
Uhhhhh... What!? Im pretty sure the tiger can beat the IS2 head up. I could be wrong, but I cant recall losing a tiger to an IS2 without massively screwing up the tiger micro.
whens the last time you tried it? once upon a time you were right, but is2 has better armor, pen, and speed. the tiger has also lots it hitpoint advantage.
is2 has a 63-83% chance to pen front armor.
tiger has a 48-59% chance to pen front armor.
at max range, the is2 has a better chance to pen a tiger than the tiger does at 0 range. guess who wins that fight? |
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havent had a chance to watch your replay, but i thought id mention that osttruppen was actually one of the better counters to industry when they first came out. the doctrine was the first to have munitions conversion, so you could sacrifice teching for extra mines and schrecks. osttruppen were also cheap and durable against a fast t3. this made them better than grens for fausting.
now, i would probably take close air support instead though. osttruppen really arent very useful in their current state, but close air support allows for the same munitions heavy builds. also, close air support gives you AT strafes which is essentially undodgeable. |
Well, the thing is that maxims really doesn't scale. It's just that they're still quite useful, but I don't think they win big improvements with veterancy unlike MG42/43.
maxim and mg42 have identical bonuses. mg34 is also the same up to vet 3. |
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