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People use su-85's as their main battle tank, when they should be used in support from behind, since they are a ASSAULT GUN. there's the problem, i have no issue with the damage but you can't exploit your opponents mistakes by circle strafing it because it reverses and moves faster than everything!

Yup.

And the stug does nothing close to that even though they are essentially very similiar IRL.

T70 outranges Shrek.
T70s outrange Fausts.
T70 counters 222.
PaK is gimp.
Mines are an option.

A well microed T70 is uncounterable at this timing and tier.

T70 needs a range nerf to return a timing/tier relevant risk/reward.

Agreed. I will add :

• that the range nerf need only be slight.(still longer range than fausts but equal range to schreks)
  

• accuracy vs retreating squads must be reduced greatly though
  

• accuracy of pak needs to be better.
  

(that sniper should be dead by then)

Lol just at this. german sniper can't counter snipe and armoured cars get murdered by su-85's. It really doesnt take that much skill for him to keep his snipers alive till his su85 comes out. You might get veeery lucky with a mortar hit but other than that its hard to kill soviet snipers controlled by a reasonably skilled opponent.

after seeing "Ram" is free, T-34 kills infantry as fast as ostwind, I stopped reading


first, ask SU-85 nerf and ignore the fact that how cost-effective PZIV is compare to any soviet tank, and never clam that PZIV beats a doctrinal more expensive T-34/85 is not a problem, PZIV beats a T-34/76 which costs 95fuel with 80% health left is not an issue, and ask for a T-34/76 nerf????????

seriously, ppl play against soviet with his hypothesis has no place in balance forum here.

I think by saying "ram is free" he meant it doesn't require veterancy.

That being said, I agree with you that p4 is efficient and T34 is underpowered. They shouldnt nerf p4 though, they should just buff t34 a bit, or alternatively buff paks/zis or furter alternatively buff stug range and nerf su85 reverse. Currently paks are shite vs su85's which isnt how it should be imo.

Back to topic:
-There's a real issue with SU-85's supported by MG's and/or snipers. The combination prevents any breakthrough by the germans do to a lack of indirect arty (panzerwerfer moved to t4 from t3 caused this).
-MG/sniper/SU85 or some varient is too effective at locking down the map and makes for stale, non-dynamic gameplay.
-Su-85 is OP by any reasonable thinking person.

Agreed on this. On pripiyat: Sniper/m3 into guards into su85, with maxims/120mm. This means he can just camp and lock down. No real option for me to lock down like that early/mid game. The german mortar is just not strong enough to break a lockdown like that. Flanking with my p4 is nigh impossible with at nades and very limited room to maneuver. I have no trouble with su85 on a map like moscow, but on smaller chokey maps they are just too strong. The russian doesnt need much skill to pull it off either cos su85 is so easy to use. My infantry cant advance effectively either unless i have extremely overwhelming numbers (which always happens right?).

However I disagree about T34. Russians need another option apart from the su85. The T34 ram is what screwed things up because the tank must be made weak to make up for the ramming ability. T34 should be up-gunnable or just have a bit better at.

If relic simply nerfs su85 then soviets wont have a great way to deal with p4's. Thus i think

1. nerf su85 reverse speed. (leave damage, so it will still be very effective)
2. buff t34 at slightly or give it upgun option.
3. buff stug range and line of sight to equal su85. (then germans wont HAVE to always spam p4's)