Profile of wongtp

Sorry but disagree on that. Soviet weapon teams are too resilient. Even Relic stated they are and they're looking into it hence we got this famous topic. I don't think anyone should argue this as obviously as the developer they have correct tools to measure it.

Maybe back in the day when they weren't performing in such a way it was fine for them to have this kind of durability but that's not the case anymore so in one way or another this should be taken care of.

a flank usually gets them, when they have to keep running back to pick up the gun, same with the 120mm. the only thing it is resilient against are using mg42 to counter it, which is not a very good counter. also, german mortar has firing rates fast enough to offset the 6man advantage. incendiary barrage is still an effective counter to soviet hardpoints. lastly, gren blobs with lmg42s can cut it down faster than it deploys, in the rare case that the weapon team survives, a rifle nade will seal the deal.

it is spammed because of the relative worthlessness of conscripts/penals. conscripts, great as a utility unit, worthless the minute once lmg42 upgrades are in. granted, thats the fault of lmgs, not grenadiers.

lmg is a scaling option for regular infantry squads in order to compete in a much more lethal battlefield when elite infantry units are deployed as the game goes on.

however, the roles of lmg should not change. grenadiers, rifles, guards and obers are not assault infantry, they are simply your general infantry, in the case of guards and obers - better than average infantry man. it should remain as an upgun, to their stock rifles.

and this design is apparent, it is available on regular backbone troops who are designed to be deployed in large numbers like grens and rifles, so that they can be spammed in order to balance out elite units that other armies get.

but right now, especially lmg42 and browning lmg. they do way too much damage for their spammmability, as compared to dp28s or lmg34 who are available only on elites like guards and obersoldaten.

so the fix is actually quite simple for lmg42, bars and browning

• reduce dps of lmg42, browning lmg and bars by 15-20%
  
• reduce cost of those weapons to 50munitions
  
• make browning take up 2 weapon slots and give rifles 3 weapon slots
  
• half the dps of bars and make 2 weapons per upgrade so they take 2 slots
  

the reasons for proposed changes are simple. these guns are meant to be deployed on large quantities, there's no reason why they should perform as well as the ones on elite troops who are called in later. also, the changes to rifles are to make sure that rifles can either hold a lmg+zooks or bars + zooks, not double lmg/bars

as for dp28s and lmg34, these guns are only available on elite infantry and are fairly unspammable. they can be left as they are with some minor tweaks.

• lmg34 is long overdue for a nerf since WFA launch, cut dps by 40% to keep it in line with other lmgs.
  
• guards troops gets 15% reduced received accuracy.
  
• reduce dps of dp28 by 10%
  

with these changes, blobs of death should be fairly toned down and things shouldnt die so fast upon contact at long range, giving more time for hmg to suppress. as long as hmgs are become difficult to kill at range, blobbing should clear up quite easily because flanking will become essential.

I'm sorry, but this is hilarious. Flanking is not rewarded? Most of the tanks have half the rear armor compared to their frontal armor, so you have almost always a 100% chance to penetrate. There are a few exceptions in both directions.
The heavy assault guns / tank destroyers tend to have far more frontal armor compared to their rear armor, examples would be:
Jagdtiger: 525 front, 150 rear (29%)
Panther: 290 / 110 (38%)
Elefant: 400 / 150 (38%)
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There are like I said also exceptions in the other direction, units that have more than 50% of their frontal armor as rear armor. Those ones are they heavy tanks:
King Tiger: 425 / 225 (53%)
Tiger: 300 / 180 (60%)
IS-2: 375 / 205 (55)

Why is that? Because these tanks are extremely slow and easy to flank, but also need to be directly in the center of the action. The support guns listed previously need to stay at range and their armor reinforces that role - flanking is super efficient vs those since it's hard to do and creates an interesting gameplay where a player needs to protect those. Flanking against something like a Tiger on the other hand is far easier to do - it can't stay on range and it is not really mobile (less mobile than IS-2 unless it's blitzing, FYI). So I'm fine with the concept and I honestly don't think that rear armor would change that much. If you fight a heavy tank and you can flank in most cases you drive right behind him to block his escape route. Even with side+rear armor that would make those tanks too susceptible to flanks and too punishing, so the design in the end would stay similar I guess.

regardless, showing rear armour is an obvious tactical blunder. even the greyhound in vcoh could pen a tiger in its rear. this only promotes easier play for heavy tanks, where they can be relatively safe from flanking mediums tanks despite overextending itself.

old vcoh heavy tank playstyle dicates heavies must be supported, if not they would be completely chewed up by flanking tanks or infantry AT. even in vcoh, these tanks are slow, yet on the upside, they are given very good front armour and are effective against all targets. they are kings of peekaboo tactics and soaking up fire, there isnt much difference in coh2 either. their only Achilles heel is their weak rear armour, which gives flanking mediums are fighting chance if they can catch heavies that are overextended and with their rear shown.

a nerf across all rear armour will do nothing to the current meta, heavies will still be counted on for their firepower and front armour. the only change is that things will be more consistent, using medium tanks to flank will be alot more reliable. taking out a heavy tank is usually a game changer. these kind of events should be least effected by rng as much as possible.

save the fuel, drag out for a isu152, which overlaps both su85 and katyusha. also, isu152 has a much lower micro ceiling than kats+su85.

t4 has its uses, just that there are other units much more efficient and effective than the entire tier.

i feel that they are a very powerful unit in the right hands, just like the jackson or the old su85.

a build order with 3x cons and 1x maxim, its really difficult to fight a combo of sturmpios and volks with kubel.