Profile of CombatMuffin

Now, whats your idea for strafing run? That SOB is ridiculously insane vdjvbidsbgjbvd uber death.

I have talked about strafing run in other topics. This is not relevant to it, and even if it was: most Soviet AT solutions are not affected by strafing run.

Soviet AT used to be lackluster before open beta. During the Stress Test prior to open Beta, they performed a change:

They buffed the SU-85: armor and AI capabilities. They nerfed the Panther :range, armor and cost, they improved speed a tiny bit. imho, this was too much, they should have done one or the other, then iterate as necessary.

I think the Panther should definetely be stronger head to head than anything the Soviets can bring non doctrinally, the catch being that Germans are designed around being a little more defensive, so the Soviets need to use their versatility to supplement against these german heavy units: they have barrages, they have button, they have at nades, wonderful inexpensive mines.

Vehicles are supposed to be the driving force behind the german army. The soviet army dictates the pace of the game at the beginning, and should mobilize to delay those vehicles from arriving. If they do arrive, you have doctrinal options to facilitate handling a situation where th egermans have arrived with heavy vehicles (mark vehicle, guards, cloaked ATG's, etc).

They seem to have a 40% chance to hit units inside buildings. So missing 4 shots in a row is definitely possible.
Furthermore, the theory with the windows makes sense: If they are on the other side of the house they cannot be hit.

I don't understand how you think the German sniper is "better" in that regard. Of course, he shoots more often but Soviet squads also have more men so he'd need about the same time to clear out a house (not factoring in luck/window thing).

I have yet to miss a single shot against a house. My sniper is usually behind my troops (meatshields and forward observation), and that means the enemy is usually shooting at my troops, so there is always someone shooting from a visible window.

As for missing anyway, I haven't had that experience yet, not when they are inside buildings (even though it says garrison cover has a 40% accuracy)

P4s are already spammable and actually work consistently against infantry. That's a terrible idea.

Barrage is 60 munitions, which alot early game and quite expensive for something that is easy enough to dodge. There are much better arty options that don't cost nearly as much.

Oh ok, I missed the part where flamers, DPs, at nades, mollys and mines are free. Faust cost is fine for what it brings. The Soviets would happily spend munitions on things like shreks/flamesniperHT/bunkers if they had the equivalent -- which they don't.

1) Panzer 4's are spammable and consistent against infantry, but: the German player must pay for two tier escalations, most likely both T2 and T3 buildings as well(skipping T2 right now is suicide). It has weaker frontal armor, weaker AT and much reduced sight radius. That's fine, the SU-85 is a tank destroyer. However, the SU-85 is significantly cheaper than the PIV, so by your admission, the SU-85 is just as spammable as the PIV. And let me tell you: in pairs, it will kill off infantry quite effectively, from a very safe distance, including pak's.

2)Lets say Barrage is 60 munitions. I've seen decent Soviet players reach the time when SU-85's come out, with an excess of 230 munitions. 60 means nothing to them. In fact, if those 60 munitions neutralize an MG42 or even hit an enemy teller mine, your money was well spent and actually returns a theoretical profit. That's an ATG getting a profit from killing infantry crews and mines.

3) Soviets don't really need flamers. They can go that route, yes, but sniper scout cars are fine, too, if you want to dip into the manpower solution. AT nades are a soft counter, and guards can fill that slot too. Many pro players successfully do not incorporate molotovs into their strategy: They are pretty predictable and delay your access to vehicles. Vehicles like the T70, T34 and SU-85. All of which have a very good efficiency if they hit the battlefield early. These strategies did not require a single point of munitions spent. All manpower. Mines are good, but the size and design of the maps also makes them very situational. No guarantee a smart player using a Flamer HT will hit the mine in that chokepoint.

Im not saying Soviets don't need munitions. There's moments where using munitions is more efficient than getting guards, and molotovs may have helped you disoldge those grens from a small building, but the Soviet army does not depend on munitions whatsoever.

I'd like to see a german player neglect fausts against scout cars. Im not even going to detail recon runs, medic bunker upgrades, smoke dischargers, etc.

Really. Just 40 hp... well that makes it even worse. Having a 50% chance to not take damage from a bullet is really a lot more high stakes with so little hp. Miss your 50% roll a few times and you're dead... four Mosin bullets is all it takes...

And thats in the early game. Mid game? A single T70 shot will kill it. No other infantry in the game dies as fast as the sniper, not even pioneers/CE's

The problem with the SU-85 is not its power. It is its cost. Right now, the SU-85 costs less manpower and fuel than a PIV, and it is vastly stronger than a PIV (circling it is hard, because the SU-85 has a very big sight radius, especially once vetted and using its vet ability).

If you increase its cost to be between a Panzer IV and a Panther, then the Soviet army will actually hurt, if it loses an SU-85.

The ZiS barrage ability is not OP, itself. The problem is also resource-centric. Since the Soviet army doesn't need to spend than many munitions to be effective, the ZiS barrage ability costing 45 munitions is not really a restriction to their gameplay. If oorah and other abilities were a little more expensive or less effective, then the Soviet army would be starved a little closer to the German army, and they wouldn't be able to use some abilities as liberally as they do now.

A Soviet player can literally neglect munitions points in the early game, and they will not suffer much of a setback compared to what the Germans will suffer if scout flamers arrive, and there are little munitions for fausts.