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Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2013, 02:24 AMVonMecha

You joking right, You know it is nearly impossible to get a maxim out of a building right now. Without massive resources or armor? Do you even have a copy of this game I am starting to wonder....

Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2013, 01:53 AMGinnungagap

Well, most of what you said was correct:

The maxim has terrible suppression
The maxim has a terrible cone of fire
The mg42 has instant suppression
The mg42 has a huge cone of fire

Thats all true, but you fail to mention certain advantages of the maxim. They were mentioned before:
Survivability (no quick clown car counter, mortar and sniper inefficient as counter) Speed (hard to flank and damage with vanilla grenadiers)
Damage (wins duel vs. mg42)
Cheap reinforcement cost

These advantages may or may not apply in any other than a 1v1 scenario(If you ask me, you cant balance this game for all game types equally.), and depend on map type (narrow, chokepoint maps generally prefer mgs).

Your conclusion, the maxim is "a poor mans mg42" is maybe accurate regarding teamgames (even more after the patch), but questionable in a 1v1. Besides that, comparing two units side by side from two asymmetric factions is not ideal. The intendet role of the maxim is more offensive, different from the mg42.

In my opinion, the main disadvantage of maxim spam lies in the mid to late game, where panzergrenadiers and proper vehicles hit the field.

You dont need to show me high level 1v1, i saw plenty in the recent TFN tournament. What i dont saw, was "mg bunker resource lockdown/spam early game" from the germans.
Maybe Aimstrong finds the thought of winning with "2 minute mg bunker lockdown" as amusing as i do.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2013, 01:43 AMpqumsieh

The Panzer IV was weighed to be a more cost effective anti-tank. In contrast, the T34 was weighed to be a more cost effective anti-infantry unit.

Imagine I give you a bucket, and I say you can put either big rocks or little rocks within that bucket. At the end of the day, you will have to decide how much of each rock type to put in that bucket. You can't put more rocks than the bucket holds.

Taking this analogy further, the size of the bucket is based on its cost. So not only does the T34 have a smaller bucket, it also has less of the big rocks and more of the little rocks. So if you try and use it for its big rocks, you aren't really going to get as much bang for your buck as you might have hoped for.

That said, its still possible that the unit needs a bit more tweaking to get that value assessment just right. For now, try taking advantage of its speed and higher efficiency vs. infantry. I'd also suggest getting the second building if you plan to use the third building, as you will be light on AT otherwise.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2013, 01:30 AMhubewa

The soviets can build T2 straight off the bat from their starting resources, just like the German T1. (The Soviet's starting resources are higher, but I know you can build T2 with your initial engie because I've built T2 first before)

The problem is not the maxim being an aggressive unit, the problem is the maxim, with it's six man crew and instant set up/pack up time becomes a viable combat unit. There is a difference between combat units and aggressive units.

Put it this way, if you push a Maxim into a firing MG42 with the old patch, the Maxim wins.

Jump back to quoted post11 Jul 2013, 01:28 AMpqumsieh

Keep in mind, that because the MG42 suppresses so quick, it effectively halves its DPS as a result. The Maxim is actually able to maintain its full DPS for longer since it takes longer to suppress. So although you won't suppress instantly, you will do more damage in the meantime.