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The Doctrine for Cons getting PPSH was produced from 1941-1947, only until 1944 they were able to produce in far larger quantities. Types of box magazine had an impact on PPSH41. The more popular magaizine were the stick magazines.

Drum Magazines were not produced until 1944.


Conscripts should get the PPSH 41 with the mass maunufactured stick magainzes requiring them more often to reload in comparison to Shocktroops who got the Drum Mags. It was not until the end of the war that 55% of its army had PPSH. Still, I think it is justified to say Conscripts should get it. Limited to 3 or 4 units the PPSH for 60 or more ammo. Should be worse than the doctrine version. Reload should be more frequent also. Since it would be a stick magazine.

The quality and thickness of the mag contributed to its performance. Stick mag having sometimes experience problems and certain failures. Conscripts should get it but worse than the proper PPSH41 Drum mag. Makes sense.

So yeah, they should get the PPSH by default but maybe a worse version since cheaper mags were easier to build, easier to manufacture and produce in mass quantites would fit the ideal weapon for Conscripts. PPSH with stick mag.

Better Equipment were put into to stock for elite/special forces.


Now German G43

G43 was introduced 1943 which was later than PPSh productions. It was given to grenadiers in service but not as many as intended. Around 30 G43 were introduced per each company, so it would be the similar with the distribution of MG42. Roughly 10 out of 30 were scoped while the 20 were iron sights.

So to introduce upgrade for having G43 upgrade is not a bad idea. The weapon was good quality. Good quality took more time. G43 is exceptional. So it would be nice for grens to have by default another upgrade option, G43.

2 G43 options actually.

1./ 60 ammo for 1 "Scoped G43". Similar to that of JLI but worse. Should be very accurate and take 5-6 sec per shot being always precise dealing 16 damage. Cover will RA is ignored but does not ignore green cover damage reduction. Does not shoot any faster the closer the enemy is. Loses, close and mid advantages

2./ Same as the doctrine. 60 ammo. Excel faster in close and mid ranges for "2 G43 with iron sights". Keeps movement. Improves move accuracy. Loses some long range accuracy but improve close to medium range.

This makes hell a lot of sense. It would be even more ridiculous to give every grenadier G43.

So grenadiers will have overall 3 weapon options. Can only pick 1 of the 3. Grens weapon options are 1./ "Scoped G43 (1 only) 2./ "G43 iron sights" 2 provided 3./ MG42.

This will increase style of play for grens. Varying in diversity and very situational.

SU went for mass quantities, cheaper production and cost efficient.
GER went for quality and quantity.

So this whole idea is indeed flawless. Would not make sense at all replacing MG42 with G43 btw. Did some research.

I suggested also repair package specifically for Conscripts and Panzergrenadiers. Since both factions have repairing and having currently only one option to deal with their problems. Both will have upgrade option called "Support Package". Similar to what they have currently in their doctrines would be great. Should be worse than their current pios and engineers but at least something that would help deal with this issue!

So Conscripts will have 1./ PPSH41 with stick mag upgrade for 3-4 units (weapon model should be worse than the current doctrine version) 2./ Support Package.

I was thinking of revamping "Oraah" a bit. They can help close gaps which we can all say is rather rather highly advantageous. I was thinking giving it also some disadvantage/defect bonuses. Maybe decrease overall efficiency output or increase received accuracy. Maybe both but minor or intermediate effect changes would appeal.!

What do you think!

I suggest give panther a AP round shot at vet1, +25% pen, 100% accuracy, 200 damage. Panther just haven't scaled well late game, since Allies tanks buff. At 18 popcap, it just don't have the firepower to deal with Churchill and KV tanks. It's vet armor skirt is useless against vetted allies guns.

I think just increased penetration and accuracy booster is good enough. I think 200 damage is too much to be honest. Wehr has Pak 40 which is great. I do agree KV and Churchill is annoying. They already have so much health. Nerfing their armour of KV1 (and the one with Flamethrower) since it is 300 armour is insane. IRL they had 90mm some parts making it 100m, so Churchill should have better armour overall.

KV, nerf armour to having the same armour as Churchill.

Would be a clear resolution.

I think OKW suffers more in terms of AT since Raketenwerfer scales badly late game thus having to heavily rely only upon Panther.

Seeing as Pgrens got a nice buff in the commander mod, this is pretty pointless, but here goes anyways.

Why I, a rank 1500 player, thought Pgrens sucked.

They come late. If you only get 3 grens so that you can get Pgrens and so that your first 222 is on time you lose so much map control
If you get 4 grens into Pgrens, you have no AT to kill that m20/UC/M3 that has been harassing you
They lose so much DPS dropping 1 model

So I wanted to have 2 of the Pgrens have MP40s, with a 30 % damage reduction compared to their current STG 44s,, and their stg44s get a 30% damage increase. That way dropping 1 model doesn’t kill their dps.

The can now put away 2 of their weaopans and take out 2 PzB 39 AT rifles, like how Sturmpioneers can take out/put away their sweeper. This allows them to counter light vehicles.

Schrek upgrade would replace the AT rifles and they wouldn’t be able to be put away

Maybe it should be an upgrade.

A purchase that provides them damage reduction and 2 MP40 (which sacrifices range capabilites). Would be a nice approach I would say.

At least there would be alternatives for the player. Either I stick to 4 STG or say "I would like a change" upgrade to what you have mentioned. I think it should cost 45-60 ammo, maybe.

Yes and no. It was true when US tanks where paper thin at the introduction of coh2. Now they are much more durable. If you have 3 or more tanks you start losing games because of the difference between repair speeds of US and UK vs ost. In practical situation of a game ost tanks have to wait for repairs while other factios repair them relatively quickly because of crews and their faster repair speeds plus very often ability to crit repair. The whole idea of crews repairing faster than dedicated units is just no comment. The fun fact would be that few people realise how much it influences gameplay when you have more tanks lategame. A fully repaired returning Jacksons coming back to finish off damaged tanks is frequent (it looks as if US had two tanks instead of one). It seems that speaking of vehicles' armour and penetration and damge is just not the full picture. How quickly they regain their hp is also a decisive factor when talkin about vehicles utility. Unfirtunately, too often neglected.
Look at how oten games finish with ost losing because of victory. Very often it is due to a sherman killing off infantry just by being able to return to battlefield faster and have much bigger impact on tbe game than p4. Simple procedure - a sherman shoots some infantry and withdraws, quckly repairs and is back for a few mores shots. Same for allied light vehicles. The impact of such tanks, especially when there's a few if them is as if you multiplied their number by say 1.6

That is very true indeed. Repair plays a decisive role in this game.

This is an issue that is experienced both on WEHR and SU.
Maybe there should be another unit to have the possibility to repair vehciles.

I am thinking that both Conscripts and Panzergrenadiers can have the upgrade repair package similar to what they have available in their doctrines would simply fix the issue.

Therefore Conscripts can be used more often and fulfill more roles of support.
For Pzgrens, since it is a mechanized unit, it would even more fulfill that role but that upgrade choice would lock out the Panzershreks.

Both will have an upgrade what is called "Support Package".

This will definitely help for sure give both of these factions a little nudge to their repair issues.

I think the starting manpower and fuel for OKW is somewhat balanced. It is alright. I do not think change is necessary. It is good as it is currently. Nothing too strong nor too weak.