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Thread: Some Love to OST11 May 2019, 17:46 PM So what would be best mid-late game then for Ost against explosives issue. Nobody even agreed on giving them the option to get 5 man which should become available after Battle Phase 2. Which I think 5 man is indeed a better resolution to all of this. If it is not 5 man, not armour, not explosive damage reduction. What should it be then? In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Consolidated Commander Roster and General Balance Changes11 May 2019, 15:16 PM Well, I have to say MP40 profile was pretty crap. They do better in maps which are more urban but STG upgrade is better overall for Volks. Since it adapts better and you can maintain better aggression. At least they are making MP40 better to make it a more viable option. Otherwise everyone would have used MP40 for Volks, which in this case was very rare. I think it provided smoke but replaced firenade with a normal nade which was a downside. The MP40 overall restricted you from maintaining aggression and engaging longer ranges. So there were more cons than pros and that is why it was hardly used. Maybe MP40 upgrade option by default for Sturmpio would most certainly fit them better if you wanted a close quarter aggression unit. Even more than so. It should give Sturmpio smoke only with the MP40 upgrade. Locks maybe every upgrade except "Wire cutter upgrade". In: Lobby
Thread: Some Love to OST11 May 2019, 15:03 PM Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 11:21 AMKatitof They are not supposed to, not on their own. That is true. That is not the why I explained they should get armour rather their increase survivability. Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 11:21 AMKatitof How is it fair? You have best team weapons support(and late game best anti infantry support in form of brummbar that annihilates blobs and single units alike in 2 shots), best sniper, best(earliest) reinforce halftruck. The only thing ost doesn't have best here is the actual mainline inf and forward healing, because they would be batshit insane if they did. The intention is not to make them batshit insane. The upgrade should come after Battle Phase 2. SU and UKF and USF also have deadly elements vs blobs too. OKW is meh, Obersoldaten being its main AI highlight. Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 11:21 AMKatitof No, it would do absolutely nothing, because its not infantry that kills them. It is unrealistic as some had claimed for an explosive modifier for Osteehr, saying it would be batshit op. Rather Armour instead since it is more realistic. I will still help however despite the encounters with explosive. It will help nonetheless, to take less damage overall than without armour. Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 11:21 AMKatitof Tommies are much more expensive and require quite hefty fuel and muni investment. In late game each tommy squad sits on 110 muni worth of upgrades on top of already paying 50+ fuel to be in that state. And it is NOT cover bonus, they have PENALTY out of cover, not bonus in cover. They are weaker outside of cover, not stronger in it - sappers have cover bonus at vet1 for stens. For a "Bolster Squad" which is arguably a bit costy since there is some fuel but it is a 1 time purchase applied to all. Provided it gives 1 man increasing overall survivability and firepower. Does outmatch grens with MG in many more situations. The cover provides according from what I have remembered just "increase rate of fire". They do even well without cover even against grens. Tommies do real good even without cover. It is just simply when they are in cover, they are better. Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 11:21 AMKatitof Because, again, it is not only a bad idea, it doesn't help then in any way in late game, because its not small arms that kill them fast by that time. If helps take less damage overall. It will help them nonetheless. There is no such thing as explosive vests. So, it would be more realistic to provide them with armour. Although its specifically against infantry and does not help against explosives. It will help anyways. Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 11:21 AMKatitof No, it is not. If it was, it would already be implemented. That horse is dead for over 3 years now, you're late to the party. Every possible implementation of that was already discussed in the past and each time it was equally bad idea. Grens are backbone of ost army, but they are NOT carry of that army, support weapons and vehicles are. It may be old this game but as long as the community is alive and interested. Ideas like this can still be implemented. There is still hope for this game I believe. The idea is not to carry rather to survive better mid-late game. Help them overall sustain less damage. This will help for sure! Not a bad idea, rather it is a rational thought! This idea is good and should be implemented. The Armour for infantry should become available after either Battle Phase 2 or Battle Phase 3. This will reduce the chances of them being wiped out rather than having no protection. Might just increases their chances of survivability which is all that is being asked of. All in all. This Armour upgrade for Osteehr infantry will most definitely deal with the issues that everyone experiences when playing Osteehr, survivability. To take less overall damage will surely make a difference. That I am certain of! In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Relic needs to enable back model editing and importing.11 May 2019, 09:10 AM I like the "Cross country in the snow" video on comment #1 where they can mobilise Pak gun with Halftrack. That is a great feature!. Put Pak crew and 1 only. Move into the battlefield. Halftrack drags the Pak. Seems rather supportive and diverse. Maybe should add in the next COH3. Hopefully if they can do with this game would be most certainly interesting too. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Some Love to OST11 May 2019, 09:06 AM Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 08:25 AMKatitof Why do you want to grenspam so hard? It is not the fact that I would like to grenspam. The fact, that they have no real ways to help deal with survivability and maintaining ground. It is more fair in this aspect, having something different than adding simply 5 men which many were not too happy about. Isn't this aspect in some ways better since it is different and not a copycat of UKF "bolster squad"? Having still 4 man and to them give a little edge more of surviving by giving 2 or 3 grens armour would help in someway maintain their loses and above all maintain consistent firepower. Maybe for Pzgrens also but should cost slightly more ammo. UKF Tommies can arguably be considered a counterpart to grens a lot better in comparison although grens have snare. Tommies overall have excelling survivability and firepower in terms of AI. Cuz of chain of upgrades that can be acquired by them. Sandbags and cover bonus is a huge deal. If to make for the sake of this game diverse instead of simply giving Wehr units additional man. Why not give the ability to purchase armour (should be worse armour than Shocks, but still something) in order to give them a better chance. It is not a bad idea! It is fair and balanced. Better than giving 5 man because Brits already need it in someway, 5 man since they do not have an elite unit. Wehrmacht needs however, the ability to hold their firepower maintenance more rather than losing 25% of it easily per model. That is why In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Some Love to OST11 May 2019, 07:33 AM Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 05:38 AMachpawel Well, I'm afraid not. Thanks to power creep other mgs are more self-sufficient and can be left alone without support more often, effectively locking quite a lot of map (UK mgs are just crazy in this respect). Mg42 needs a spotter or will be too easily flanked or even rushed into its arc of fire and killed head on (it happens too easily in later stages of the game with more upgraded/better infantry). The problem is that with very mobile allied units it's practically impossible to keep babysitting mg42 to such a great extend mid-late game. With other mgs you need less babysitting as they react to threats more autonomically. Secondly, ost infantry don't have that many tools to clear mgs. They are slower dealing damage and don't have that many smoke options. Yet, they get pinned further from allied mgs and lose models more quickly when under mg fire. If you don't like the idea of making mg42's vision similar to say Soviet mgs (I'm not even trying to suggest UK's los), maybe other mgs should have shorter los - identical to mg 42. I agree on the fact that the MG42 can be flanked easily at times, I believe it is due to the fact their rotation speed is somewhat slower. Just feel that Vickers can pick of targets in either corner of the arc quicker than MG42. Giving grens, sandbags since they are a defensive unit would make sense. Pio does not even have the time to place sandbags,mines,tripwire , repair and building bases. Pios being the only unit having to do everything. Sandbags option for grenadier would be nice. Makes more sense too! Osteehr does lack the ability to counter other team MGs. I think the best idea would to decrease the reload speed of Osteehr's current Mortar since it can be slightly slower than some others. I think it should be faster than it is currently would solve their lacking tools to counter MGs properly. Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 05:38 AMachpawel Agreed. Still one thing to be remembered is that most ost units are stationary and predictably tied to cover. Comparing allied indirect fire options and ost is just difficult, as the impact of such wweapons on ost is huge while allied infantry is mostly on the move, so unless you make some mistake of just standing for a long time in one spot, they are tactically almost immune to indirect fire. Fun fact is that pack howie dmgs units on the move which ost mortar should do. I have used the USF howie and it is just ridiculous. Getting one of those can actually somehow change the tide of the game. Helped me in my favour several times. Osteehr mortar should have a decreased reload time. It should be faster than most mortars, not slower as it feels currently. Maybe nerf damage of USF howie or aoe would be a good move. Both areas currently being too good. Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 05:38 AMachpawel Agreed. I still sometimes think that going for fourth bunker option (repair) is good because pioneers are overworked anyway. They build base buildings, lay mines, clear mines, need to help with assaults, build sandbags and repair. So speed, yes, but also you need to let them do other things as retreating sometimes 200 or even 400 manpower from the front to repair a tank gives your opponent too many tactical advantages. Not to mention the fact that sometimes a good tactics is to concenterate fire on you pios and ost tanks are dead. I always thought that they should have had a repair bunker since they cover the other 3 options, why not also the "repair". Pios should also more often be able to place sandbags or defensive positions. Osteehr seems like the faction is more or so often have to find cover rather than making it. Give Grens sandbags or trench. SU by base should have the option to get also a repair base. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Some Love to OST11 May 2019, 07:15 AM Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 02:44 AMblancat Don't try to make the game shoddy any more Why do you have to be so dull? In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Conscripts idea "Human Wave Tactics"11 May 2019, 07:10 AM Jump back to quoted post11 May 2019, 02:58 AMblancat ridiculous idea play more soviet and axis and comeback here You don't even know the whole flow of the game The balance of the game is not a delusion or a movie The concept of this idea and the historical context is not delusional. It was not inspired from movies rather from historical sources. The flow of the game I understand. I played it a lot to understand enough how annoying blobs can be in this game. SU Conscript massive numbers makes sense since when they had the numbers. The idea is not bad. I have another better idea, why not care to share it if you yours is better?. I am willing to see that Conscripts get some upgrade of sorts matched according to its role in history, makes it all the more fun and unique. The reason why they have merging in this game is related to the ideal concept of massive numbers. Does not take one to learn or understand the inspiration behind this idea! That why this idea is not bad. More men to support and merge support weapons. Not a bad idea after all. Why not suggest what is best for Conscripts or what upgrades would fit them better? That is also where balancing comes in, to make it not overpowered nor too weak either. To also have a designed concept or a fit fulfilled role. I have played a lot of Soviets, I know the play or style to know even fact that people mention that Conscripts is not good enough due to the simple fact that they do not have an upgrade to scale early-mid game. I personally think they are a good supportive unit but they do not exactly scale well as soon as they obtain upgrades. I only usually get 1 or 2 max. I dislike your assumption on peoples so called understanding of the game. It does not take long to understand the whole concept. It is a video game after all. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: USF & OKW AA vehicle10 May 2019, 22:57 PM Jump back to quoted post10 May 2019, 22:47 PMKatitof That guide is as outdated as it gets. Go to official forums and read patch notes thread. Search for 251 on 5th page. Oh great. 16 to 20 damage. Nice. You got pretty sharp eyes. Thanks. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Some Love to OST10 May 2019, 22:37 PM Maybe some armour upgrade for grens is just what it needs. Limited to 2 models. Costs 45 ammo. No 5 man required. This is good! In: COH2 Gameplay