Profile of Kolaris

I think you underestimate the power of the fog of war. Sneak up a sniper get that 100 percent shot and turn the game around. That certain 340mp trade I was talking about.

That can already happen.

"But only half the time!"

Which is just covering up an issue by obscuring it with bullshit.

You paralyze him into fear on a possibility? That's a joke, that's even a bigger gamble the player needs to take than 50% chance insurance policy.
Recon Run spam new meta?

He's not taking fewer shots because he's scared, he's taking fewer shots because he has to line up a shot that can't be countersniped. Because people actually do that.

If you make a 100% countersnipe you need to make a 100% penetration, assured criticals, Mo more M8's dodging pak shots, Less arty scatter ... etc etc

Slip'n'Slide

that one bundled grenade whiping out that vet 3 rifle

You fucked up

that near instant arty without a warning immediately whiping out a squad

You could have retreated

Using your Sniper properly only to miss some idiot who's running his Sniper un-camo'd to a rally point and have him CS you without the other player having even touched his sniper - and this will happen 25% of the time

You've been fucked

I brought that and the Sniper reload bug up but I don't think either made it in (yet).

You missed his point, you can still take shots if you know:

1) Your opponent's Sniper doesn't have a shot on yours
2) Your opponent's attention is elsewhere
3) Your opponent won't be able to react fast enough to your first shot

Then rather than automatically losing your 340 MP to his 340 MP like you said, you're still draining his MP and his 340 MP is sitting there doing nothing.

Seb said he was unsure because as Aimstrong & Budwise pointed out US was/is heavily depended on Snipers to counter T2 Terror, and there wasn't time to provide alternative counters.

Everyone was in agreement 100% CS was better for gameplay, outside a couple people who were neutral on removing RNG anywhere.

I'm fine with a general health/retreat nerf, in fact that's part of the Heroic Critical on Retreat idea imo. But that's a separate issue and I still feel 100% CS is important regardless of any other change.

No I want it to stay exactly the same way it is, because of any proposition or any idea (including my own ideas) I don't think it would create better gameplay. In the past their were tests with snipers not killing each other off completely or 100pct countersnipe, it just doesn't feel right.

2 hits to kill in all situations was rejected because it didn't reward countersniping enough, which is the opposite of what you're saying...

RNG is the name of the game, you have it in almost every unit and ability. Howitzer can kill all or hit nothing, same with nebels and stuff. I'm not sure snipers deserve to be any different.

Snipers already ARE different, because it's 1 diceroll and not influenced by player skill.

Everywhere else the dicerolls are at least in the dozens, and that gives you time to adjust if you see you're being screwed by the RNG. Snipers, not so.

The truth is more dicerolls equals less randomness. I don't look at this as removing dicerolls, I'm actually trying to add them. But the end result is less negative RNG.

Why does a countersniper HAVE TO succeed? It's basically this: If you spend 340 manpower you are certain to take away his 340 manpower.

It has to succeed because you outplayed your opponent and deserve to be rewarded.

You're thinking you'll be guaranteed to lose your Sniper because you use them very aggressively. You've said a couple times you don't move your Sniper after every shot, you've mentioned using attack move liberally, and from Tommy's streams that seems to be the case.

Well if you use them so freely, of course your opponent will get an opportunity to countersnipe. That's the risk you take when you're firing at every opportunity.

If someone uses them cautiously, using manual firing, gauging whether they're being baited into a countersnipe, even a 100% countersnipe chance doesn't mean it's a sure deal. Simply because you never let your opponent get an opportunity to take the shot.

That's the kind of skilled play we're trying to reward here in my opinion.

It's a good fix but I don't know about easy - you'd have to add that new critical type to every single weapon .rgd wouldn't you?