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Thread: Sander's personal balance changes5 Sep 2020, 23:14 PM May OKW get a T0 smoke option? I mean they have a hard time dealing with mgs on open maps in early game. Ostheer can get mortars and snipers, soviets can get M3 scout car, snipers, ATG barrage or mortars, usf can get mortars or rear echelon smoke, brits can get UC and bring a squad behind mg. OKW can only rely on flanking, the kubel won't last long to a vickers or maxim mg. My proposal is that the sturmpioneer's stun grenade gets replaced with smoke grenade, available at vet0. Vet1 reduces cooldown time on it. Alternative idea is that the kubel gets panzer tactician smoke, which in turn would further increase its survivability, tho it would be less practical to use against mgs. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: commander synergies in 2v25 Sep 2020, 20:53 PM Soviet + UKF with special weapons doctrine, giving vickers lmgs to penals and piats to any other infantry. In: Lobby
Thread: Sander's personal balance changes5 Sep 2020, 13:00 PM It might worth considering this for USF: https://www.coh2.org/topic/106294/give-mechanized-s-surplus-to-off-meta-commanders In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Stealth detection5 Sep 2020, 10:16 AM It seems a little inconsitent to me. Scout vehicles and IR obers can detect stealth units and demo charges from far away, but not the goliath. Minesweepers can detect mines and goliath from far away, but not demo charges (same range without sweeper). I mean the goliath is a demo on tracks, but the game handles it more like a vehicle, while the demo charge is more like a huge mine. Sweeper for demos and scouting for goliaths would be more consistent imo, but if there is a good balance reason for why it works like this, then I'm ok with it. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sander's personal balance changes4 Sep 2020, 15:20 PM Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2020, 17:39 PMSander93 A slight decrease to moving DPS of two surviving squad members would be a small sacrifice to receive a third G43 which would increase the firepower of a full and 3/4 model squad quite significantly. 3 Gren G43s (and one Kar 98K) would put their total DPS more in line with other semi-upgraded mainline infantry. IIRC it would give them DPS somewhere around a non upgraded to 1 BAR upgraded Riflemen squad. Good call on the Lend Lease M5, I will add that. I'm not sure about allowing the Special Weapons halftrack to drop weapons without weapon racks tech; I thought that was a specific nerf to the unit some time ago and I assume it was for a good reason. I must admit I'm not very familiar with this unit/commander so I'm not sure what the gameplay implications of such a change would be. Ah, I see, I didn't catch that standing dps per G43 will stay. Don't forget about soviet Lend Lease M5 at implementation, it is a separae entitty from stock M5. As for the special weapons ht I imagine it was nerfed cuz you can give those vickers and piats to your teammates too, fair point. Lemme put some short explanations to my suggestions I put in my previous post: OKW emplacements: OKW has no means of reinforcing a pak43, lefh or flak emplacements that is not placed right next to battlegroup hq (unless a cooperative ostheer player helps out). In fact I don't think I have ever seen any of these reach vet 5 in competitive. Pioneer and Combat engineer shared vet: these units serve little purpose in combat after early game, especially when they are upgraded with sweepers. Pios however provide vital sight to team weapons, which should be rewarded. Sweeper repair bonus would be removed. M3 scout car shared veterancy: like kübel, unupgraded 251 ht, etc. this vehicle also struggles to gain veterancy on its own. In fact it might worth considering giving this vehicle some vet 2 or 3 ability that makes it worthwhile to keep it alive (all other scout vehicles have active or passive abilities that keep them useful in late game). I mean it gets a nice sight radius with vet, but the T70 can do that too while remaining somewhat combat viable and more durable in late game. I was thinking about giving the guards' button vehicle ability, a soft snare that can make the M3 useful after early game too. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Sander's personal balance changes3 Sep 2020, 16:42 PM I like most of the proposed changes except for the schreck change. Sure, greater chance of getting hits, but what's the point if they can always get away with a bit of health left? The more random, but guaranteed kill on hit is more rewarding, and especially in urban areas schrecks might meet tanks at super close range, where the only thing that matters is damage. Another thing I don't like is the G43 changes on grenadier squads, it's a straight nerf. A squad with two models left would perform worse. Why is it necessary? I'm a bit unsure about giving stock field healing option to soviets, seems like a core change to the faction. ~~It would be like giving at least one doctrinal forward retreat point to ostheer.~~ Anyway, here is list of suggestions for additional changes: OKW Lefh18 and Pak43 vet 4 and 5 bonuses replaced with self reinforcement and heal, moved to vet 1 and 3. Flak emplacement can no longer be decrewed. OST Pioneer squad reduced veterancy requirement replaced with shared veterancy. Increase Relief infantry active time from 60s to 120s, cost increased by 50%. Fix 250 halftrack lmg grenadiers' vet 3 bonus (still uses RA bonus instead of reduced damage). SOV Combat engineers receive shared veterancy, requirements increased by 15%. M3 scout car receives shared veterancy, requirements increased by 15%. Increase Rapid conscription active time from 60s to 120s, cost increased by 50%. UKF Lend Lease M5 halftrack can also drop a single med crate for 15 muni. Resupply halftrack's vickers lmg drop no longer requires weapon rack unlock (similar to USF M1919). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Experimental Modding for reworked USF and OST3 Sep 2020, 06:47 AM Jump back to quoted post3 Sep 2020, 06:44 AMSupport Sapper It's not the same result since you unlock a full set of support weapons include mg, mortar and At. In live version you only have the lieutenant and unlock mg, which is the reason for "free officer" complaint. The point is officer is not "free" anymore. I see, I didn't notice that the extra unlock step was removed. However that removed fuel price gotta be added to Battalion unlock then. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Experimental Modding for reworked USF and OST3 Sep 2020, 06:30 AM 180/35 + 280 = 460/35(+time) vs 250/35 for the same result. I would say simply paying 35 fuel and no manpower for the platoon cp would be enough. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Potential reworks for current doctrines3 Sep 2020, 05:46 AM Jump back to quoted post2 Sep 2020, 22:37 PMGrim Would really like to swap the KV-8 for the T34/85 in the Soviet Industry doctrine. It's a tank based commander but without something better than the 76 it falls flat. Not to mention the fuel drop is utterly useless. 100 munitions for 30 fuel that gets shot down the moment any AA hits the field? Honestly, why is the allied fuel drop so awful compared to the Ost one which is such better value, can be used for munitions too and can't be shot down. Try Armored assault then, it has both the t34/85 and the is2. Personally I found the kv8 very useful in Soviet insdustry, with two repair options available it can terrorize infantry all day. If I need something that can counter other tanks, then I just get Su 85s. The fuel drop usually works around mid game, leading to early tanks, such as an early kv8 while there is nothing to counter it. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Experimental Modding for reworked USF and OST3 Sep 2020, 05:26 AM Prices not adjusted for removing free officers, no more smoke for rear echelons, faust and rifle nade on separate upgrades for grenadiers and no more stg44s for pgs. Nope In: COH2 Balance