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Thread: Penals have the worst mainline infantry target size18 Sep 2022, 06:09 AM Yeah scratch my idea. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penals have the worst mainline infantry target size17 Sep 2022, 18:11 PM Jump back to quoted post17 Sep 2022, 17:38 PMrumartinez89 Wouldn't this be a straight nerf to Penals? SVT are better at all ranges, they just don't scale well against Elite Axis infantry. The DPS they gain from VET doesn't keep pace with the REC ACC bonuses Elite axis start with and get with VET. However since they have 2 weapon slots along with the highest acc bonuses they have the potential to be one of the highest DPS dealers in the game. EDIT: To my knowledge that is why AssG and AirborneG get SVT and not mosins. Maybe i remember wrong but gaurds mosin are quite good. Grenadier good or better. What i would like to see fixed is that all soviet inf with the exception gaurds and airborne gaurd need to close in. 6 guards mosins afaik would do more damage long range the svt's. But what you say makes more sense about the vet bonusses in acc and rec acc. I still think in playstyle in fighting esp early on cons and penals dont complement eachother well enough. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Penals have the worst mainline infantry target size17 Sep 2022, 14:08 PM The grens and pgren and volks and obers work better then cons and penals. Different roles and guns and preffered distances. They compliment each other a lot better. Firstly their timing is further apart. Secondly they provide a lot more ai power then penals do. Penals initialy where designed to be the punch with tools to break defenses cons could not reliably give. Then they nerfed penals to the ground at 270 mp loosing sprint later as well. Cons recieved durability buffs and their dps became consistant and closer to penals. Now we have both cons and penals with close and mid as their most effective distance, leaving soviets still with no real long range inf stock. With one being a lot more expensive while offering only a bit better dps, worse scaling and next to nothings else except satchals and light at wich guts their ai. For this to work imo penals need to be delayed with cost increase as a side grade in t1 for example. They need to be turned more into long range inf with an x number of guard mosins at first with mobilized reserves giving the rest guard mosins, and recieve actual nades tied to mollie research. With 1 weapon slot standard and 0 after mob res to avoid opness. Not that this will happen but one can hope. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: long vision range cancer6 Sep 2022, 17:10 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2022, 20:10 PMKoRneY This is a fine feeling and all but imo it can't be substantiated on any level because it is your perception. I personally watch players who rotate their factions. Werfer, lefh, multiple doctrines tweaked to be less lethal. Tiger along with other heavies (not KT).This has been applied across the board for all factions... I would say because one is an assault gun in t4 which arrives after 15+ minutes and they other is a t2 anti-tank unit with support abilities that requires almost no fuel investment. 120mm is a harder hitting mortar than the PM-81. It also comes later and is more expensive. Why does one of the best mortars in the game get to run away with 1 person? Animation reasons but guess what, it is what it is. And that's fine. Like I already mentioned we have 1 year of stats and the factions are pretty close. Its my opinion but not just a feeling. Pwerfer tiger etc did see some nerfs i know.. However the fact that panzers 4 and tigers are easier to use as ai and at remains. An easier fit so to say. Allied squads and tw tend to get bled a lot more and wiped with one shot a bit more often also remains. The bbb barage deleting vet3 team weapons in mere seconds is too good. No price justifies this. The zis barrage was no where near a wipe machine, only with a very very bad rng roll or unlucky moving into the shot it did wipe. And all stock allied mg's being naded frontally with relative ease while you have no chance to do the same vs axis mg is also weird to say the least. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game6 Sep 2022, 15:28 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Sep 2022, 14:45 PMBasedSecretary classic coping bla bla bla 100% agreed. We agree on something great. The black prince is a upgunned version of a acutual tank. Simaler to the sherman firefly yet the bp didnt see action/deployment. Its retarted to go ape over this. But for wheraboo it isent aperently. The horror of axis not having an armour advantidge in a coh game must blow their minds. Also going full extreme to the ratte wich is a non excisting/working concept so over the top it wont even work to try and justify not adding the bp is actualy retarded. If the bp is released shut up and cope, to please the axis fanboys and get some cash they will release all the good old wunderwaffe we saw before such as kt ele jagd st tiger ace etc for sure. In: Lobby
Thread: long vision range cancer5 Sep 2022, 19:25 PM Jump back to quoted post5 Sep 2022, 15:40 PMKoRneY Without having a full list of people accusing a whole team of bias is a complete waste of time. edit : There is also almost a full year of data for the last patch. Allies in 1v1 have the same edge winning % wise as Axis do in 4v4, with 2v2/3v3 being quite close. Considering the amount of variables they've had to deal with in the game, as well as restrictions from Relic that's quite an achievement. This game was busted as fuck until the community took over. They probably didn't get as much money as they got vitriol, which is totally fucked up as they were volunteers. Along with the everyday duties every person has, they suffered from ungrateful shitlords who as always are prone to pointing at everyone else instead of right where it all starts. How none of the team told anyone on this forum to go fuck themselves is beyond me. I will be grateful to their efforts because they at least tried. Nothing is perfect. Saying they have a favor is something different then saying they are baised. Imo there is a small bit of favor for axis throughout the games full history, wich the amount casters mostly showing axis games show imo. As long as it doesnt break the game its fine. I am gratefull for their effort and input. I cannot fully agree with evey disicion. Some i dont like outright. Wich is fine. These things bug me a bit as to why: Reducing sov and esp usf killing/wiping power. While increasing osts already good wiping power. Usf is very very dependend on a single doctrine and gets bled dry with imo weak(est)late game. Why? Bbb buff with leaving no time to react and have any team weapon wiped almost on demand. While zis barrage got nerfed to give time to react. Bbb should have recieved the same treatment. Why not? Why arty abilities via doctrine on panzers? Imo its to strong. Why can all allied stock mg's be naded frontaly by a single squad and none of the axis? In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: long vision range cancer4 Sep 2022, 20:24 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2022, 18:36 PMProtos Angelus Highly doubt they had no time/scope. Given how the most prominent members of the comm.balance team are axis players (except jibber), and how they were not getting payed at all for the balancing. They just let it be so they have something to rely on (literally every game I've played against sturm or sander, they did the same meta build/commander in 3v3s). It's completely normal and expected. Subconsciousness is a bi*ch I am not 100% sure who is or was on the team but i am also of the opnion that they are mostly in favor off axis. The same as the biggest streamers and casters coh 2 has. You can only do so much when the majority of players and casters have a favor for one side. Like you said normal and expected, yet also a pitty. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: long vision range cancer4 Sep 2022, 17:21 PM Jump back to quoted post4 Sep 2022, 15:05 PMthekessvn So, event know about those broken shit, they ( including Tightrope ) dont give a shit and left them come to live vision ?. Right ?. So why Mod team need feedback after all ?. For fun ? The mod team will have different opinions per member. Probably tight rope was the only or one of the few that disagreed on this subject. Or there was no time to fix or it was out of scope. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: since we are adding prototype tanks in game1 Sep 2022, 15:40 PM The meltdown over something such as the black prince being added in coh3. Late war germany vs early war soviets no problem. Didnt happen like that but hey i got heavies and super heavies and easy 4v4 mode, Idgaf anymore. Axis boner satisfied. Authentisitie sidelined. Coh3 allies get heavies of simaler power but based on a prototype. Axis playerbase loose their mind. Authentisitie authentisitie!!!!! It didnt see action bruh. Then then whe should add unbuildable things germans thought up. Heavies should just be very very limited in coh 3. Axis included. In: Lobby
Thread: Penals have the worst mainline infantry target size31 Aug 2022, 18:53 PM Jump back to quoted post31 Aug 2022, 18:43 PMVipper Didn't Penal received buffs because people where spamming maxims and none used them? Didn't Conscripts received buffs because people where spamming Penals and none used them? Wouldn't this vicious circle continue if either unit receives a buff with player simply choosing the more cost efficient unit? I do agree with what you say about the circle mostly. Initialy cons where utility backbone inf with a very big rng based dps. Penals where the damage dealers with svts flamers and satchals. They decided to nerf penals and leave cons as is for a long time. imo they overnerfed them to their 270 mp version. This began the circle imo. They braught penals and cons to close together. At that time they where marganaly better at combat then cons but offered no utility. So cons obviously became the best choice. In: COH2 Balance