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and tested vicker it suppresses just fine

same as mg 42

did u really test in the same situations ?

vicker >

mg 42 >

same for dskh even tho it has lower AOE radius

Here just redid the test
DshK

after center suppressed.

after center pined.

Thank you for sharing and putting so much effort also into explaining the setup!
One question though! Did you test on a range map? So the ranges are shoen in colored lines, which improves reproducability.

No, I am still finding that map. If you could, please leave me a link, that will be hugely appreciated.

Here are some the testers personal conclusions:
1. I do not agree that Sherman E8 is just a piece of crap. However, I would not see myself produce any during a real game. Here are why: [1] I can use the same resources of producing two Sherman E8s for one M36 and a regular Sherman. This kind of combination will put out more AT or AI output almost in all of kinds situations compare to purely having two E8.[2] The Rifle Company commander sucks, in my opinion. I really don't see any reason for me to choose it over the others.
2. Comet needs a complete remake but not a slight buff. Current testing shows that its performance worse than panthers in both AI and AT performance even though they both cost almost exactly the same.
3. I have just come back from another team game. My friend and I managed to hold off a huge Soviet push with a fairly small army.
Here is a list of the units:
Two soviets: 3 T-34/85s, 2 IS-2s, and 2 SU-85s.
Me and my friend: 1 JP4, 1 Panther, one elephant, and two schrecks PGs
We sacrificed the Panther and the elephant in returned of destroying all of their tanks but one SU-85.
I know the matchmaking maybe a little bit unfair( me being as around rank 70 and my friend ranks around 400), but I still think there is something wrong in terms of the allies tank overall stats performance.

Okay, so, before you start to reply or criticize what I have posted below. Could you please, at least, finishing reading the post entirely? I have spent more than 5 hours for all of the testing and finishing this whole post. So I do think I deserve some kinds of appreciations.

In the last few days, I have tested the overall performances of all premium medium tanks. The testing subject contains the following subjects: T-34/85, Sherman 76, and Sherman E8. Comet and OKW P4 were also included in the test but with different testing methods.

The AT and AI performance tests were done in these following ways:
1. Two T-34/85, Sherman 76, and Sherman E8 chased one Panther in a certain distance to determine the proper testing range of firing. The chasing distance is determined by real combat experiences of how long could the two allies tanks go before risking too much of destroying the enemy tank. The " the proper testing range of firing" means if the two allies tanks should fire at long or mediums distance. P4, instead, will chase a comet. The Comets, instead, will chase two Panthers.
2. In a group of 10 testings, find out how well will two T-34/85, Sherman 76, or Sherman E8 against one Panthers base on the results from step one.
3. In two groups of 5 testings, find out how well will one T-34/85, Sherman 76, Sherman E8, P4, or Comet performances against two level 3 VGs compare to one panther. One group of testing was done when the main gun was deactivated, and one was done when the main gun was active. The final report is done base on the final conclusion. ( All tests were done in a range when all mounted MGs are able to fire)

T-34/85, testing range: long
Times of Two T-34/85s remains when the panther is destroyed: 2
Times of One T-34/85 remains when the panther is destroyed: 3
Times of panther is still alive while two T-34/85s are both destroyed: 5
AI performance when the main gun is active: Better than Panther.
AI performance when the main gun is not active: Worse than Panther.

Sherman 76, testing range: long
Times of Two Sherman 76s remains when the panther is destroyed: 3
Times of One Sherman 76 remains when the panther is destroyed: 5
Times of panther is still alive while two Sherman 76s are both destroyed: 2
AI performance when the main gun is active: Better than Panther.
AI performance when the main gun is not active: Same as Panther.

Sherman E8, testing range: medium
Times of Two Sherman E8s remains when the panther is destroyed: 4
Times of One Sherman E8 remains when the panther is destroyed: 5
Times of panther is still alive while two Sherman E8s are both destroyed: 1
AI performance when the main gun is active: Worse than Panther.
AI performance when the main gun is not active: Same as Panther.

P4, testing range: long; Against one Comet
Times of Two P4s remains when the Comet is destroyed: 3
Times of One P4 remains when the Comet is destroyed: 5
Times of Comet is still alive while two P4s are both destroyed: 2
AI performance when the main gun is active: Better than Comet.
AI performance when the main gun is not active: Better than Comet.

Comet, testing range: long Against two panthers
Times of Two Comet remain when two panthers are destroyed: 2
Times of One Comet remains when two panthers are destroyed: 2
Times of two panthers are still alive while two Comet are both destroyed: 2
Times of one panthers is still alive while two Comet are both destroyed: 4
AI performance when the main gun is active: Worse than Panther.
AI performance when the main gun is not active: Worse than Panther.


Here are some of my personal background:
I am team game players, which means, most of the times, I play 4v4 and 3v3. I usually ranked among 20 for USF and SOV, and around 70 for the other factions. Its has been a long time noticed that It is very rare to see any high-rank players spamming those premium medium tanks but Panthers. So I decided to do this test. Of course, the test is not perfect. But I have tried my best to simulate the real battlefield as much as possible. I refused to dig in purely base on the data because, in some of my previous testings, I realized, even though the stats show exactly the same, the performance may show slite differences. For example: pak 40 and 6 pdr ready to fire time.

Here is something interesting I found during testing:
1. Sherman E8 has, overall, the second worst AI performance among all the testing subjects. I don't know if it is a bug or not, but its main gun has almost no AOE.
2. Comet hull machine gun has the worst performance. It usually only dropped 2 to 3 models at the same time which takes panthers to drop two squads.
3. Yet perform almost the same, Sherman e8's machine gun cost ten ammos more than Sherman 76's and panther's
4. Panthers seem to have the worst tank turret reaction time. It usually starts to rotate its turret later the others.

Edits:
Since there has been people asking. I'll further explain why did I choose T-34/85, Sherman 76, Sherman E8, OKW P4, and Comet as the testing subjects, or in other terms, why do I consider them as premium medium tanks.
1. The tank should be able to have more than one on the field at the same time. So in this case, Pershing and OKW command panther were excluded.
2. The tank should be able to have the capability of fighting both infantries and armor targets. So, in this case, Sherman 105 and KV8 were excluded.
3. The tank should be able to move in fairly fast speed. Thus the KV1 was also excluded.
4. The selected tank should have a similar tank in its relative factions that are both cheaper and performed worse than it. That is why I consider the OKW P4 as a premium tank but not the OST one.

Recently, I have been testing between UKF 6 pdr and OST pak40. Both At gun have very similar base stats. However, I found out something rather interesting.

In comparison:
Pak 40:
Take less exp to vet up.
Much more useful secondary ability.
Reload a little bit quicker at vet 3.

6 pdr:
Faster ready aim time at vet 0( did not find out any difference base on pure stats but found differences during field testing.)
15% aim bonus to light armors( maybe have been removed)
The cool projectile effect after reaching vet 3

Please let me know if I have missed anything impoartant. And, most importantly, tell me a reason that I will pick an abandon 6 pdr over a pak 40 as the other factions.