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Thread: If you made the 76mm Sherman a stock USF unit?10 Aug 2020, 20:03 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Aug 2020, 19:48 PMBetterDead ThanRed im allowed to hope, am i not? :-) maybe restrict allied factions to 1 endgame TD 60 range each, that would be something to see :-) Tank destroyers are reactive units. They're so common in teamgames because the maps are so lanely and heavy armour is so prevalent. The actual way to fix it is to replace all the Red Ball Expresses and Alliances of Defiance with wider maps, and to add point-blank penetration spikes to all vehicles so that Tank Destroyers aren't the only answer to heavies. I doubt such changes would be popular though. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: State of OKW in the meta 10 Aug 2020, 19:52 PM OKW's problem has always been its tech structure. USF, UKF and OKW were all victims of Relic's strange obsession with making incomplete factions that rely on very powerful gimmicks. Most of those gimmicks have been stripped out now, but OKW still has an awkward tech structure. Some sort of USF-style tech overhaul is probably the answer for it. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: If you made the 76mm Sherman a stock USF unit?10 Aug 2020, 19:43 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Aug 2020, 19:36 PMBetterDead ThanRed I see no problem that USF gets M4 76 stock, its decent for its purpose, with AP for pz4's and weaker targets, and APCR for heavier targets, but slower ROF. 380 MP 125 fuel and 12 pop seems legit gives USF players something more than just blobs + jacksons. quite tired of the allied rush into TD-meta...... I doubt that'd change. Most meta strategies are that way because they don't require as much coordination or thought. Blobs will never die because they're easy to play. They're already suboptimal. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is the WC 51 overperforming ? 10 Aug 2020, 19:31 PM Is all this exaggeration necessary? You'd think any unit with a red health bar got a +50% stat buff... In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-85 and SU-7610 Aug 2020, 19:17 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Aug 2020, 18:56 PMullumulu oh..u mean..like jp4 and panther? j4 is only good vs low armor targets...and is an only anti armor verhicle without any AI and for lategame armor u need a panther to have a chance to penetrate. do u mean exactly this case from OKW? Yes and no. Most of the time, the JPIV/Panther split isn't an anti-medium/anti-heavy split. Two of the three Allied factions have no doctrinal heavy armour, and both units are capable against medium armour. The difference that makes the split work is playstyle: the Panther is a dive tank, the JPIV is a defensive casemate. They fit into different strategies but counter the same stuff. When you introduce enemy heavy armour, it becomes an anti-medium/anti-heavy split and stops working. The JPIV becomes an unsafe investment (because a 140 FU AT specialist needs to pull its weight) so you just get Panthers. Similarly, the SU-76 and SU-85 need a difference in playstyle to coexist. Both are casemates, so that can't happen if they're both dedicated AT units. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: If you made the 76mm Sherman a stock USF unit?10 Aug 2020, 18:58 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Aug 2020, 17:06 PMMr. Someguy But I am less concerned about USF than I am than about Soviets, whose best medium tank is the worst in the game by a considerable margine. The T-34/76 is the worst medium tank at fighting other tanks. It's one of the best against infantry. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-85 and SU-7610 Aug 2020, 18:48 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Aug 2020, 17:55 PMthedarkarmadillo Which is a Problem. Rather THE problem. Tuning the su85 towards heavy Armour and having the su76 for lights and mediums (have an upgrade to full damage once t4 is built?) and indirect support would have room for both units. That sort of anti-medium/anti-heavy split doesn't work. CoH 2's armies are very small, which heavily favours generalists. The SU-85 is already heavily specialised: it's an expensive, cumbersome, easily flanked casemate that can't inflict any manpower bleed. If you specialise the SU-85 and SU-76 to the point where you need both, you'll get neither. You'll get ZiS guns. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Give Mechanized's Surplus to Off-Meta Commanders10 Aug 2020, 18:23 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Aug 2020, 18:12 PMSkysTheLimit I like the rifle company suggestion, but infantry company is good enough imo, at least in team games. I can see why it might not get much use in 1v1, but it's a really strong commander in any other mode I think that's fair. I'd be perfectly happy to make the 75mm Dozer an Urban Assault exclusive (or better, replace it with the more unique 105.) However, going into specifics tends to derail threads, so I'm trying to stick to the high concept of redistributing the abilities of bloated commanders to off-meta ones. The specifics are best left to the balance team. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: SU-85 and SU-7610 Aug 2020, 17:36 PM You all seem to be arguing despite all ultimately agreeing: There's nothing the SU-76 is needed for before the SU-85 is available, and once the SU-85 is available there's no need for the SU-76. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Is the WC 51 overperforming ? 10 Aug 2020, 17:30 PM The WC51 is good enough that it'd still be used even if you removed Mark Target, 155mm Artillery and the vehicle crew. It's a 200 MP, 0 FU clown car that can cap. In: COH2 Balance