Profile of Widerstreit

Pls give me the panzer 4 f1 (the stubby one)
I love the stubby panzer in combination with panzer grens

Also would like to see a Panzer 4 F1.

Why not making the Commando-Panzer be a Ausf. G like OKW's model instead? Spawning with extra armor.

So we can make a useful F1 like in CoH1.

As a fact i use the airdrop quite frequently, at midgame specially. Its true it costs manpower in a faction that bleeds it a lot because of ostruppen casualties. But The advantage its that those guns, the mg34 and the PAK will be crewed by those ostruppen to make them cheap enough, also bring the core mainline new and more powerful tools, a Mg34 paired with a Mg42 deny almost 180 degree arc, using the 42 on the riskier side and the other to cover flanks. Pak walls are for AT control.
The only missing part and it should be is the artillery control, wich ostruppen lacks and its ok, its the weaker side of the doctrine. Reinforce cost is as cheap as it can be, so bunkers to hold the line are mandatory

I loved the old Osttruppen, but I complete changed to the revamp commander now.

The only thing I am missing is the Artillerieoffizier, but with the StuG E I don't need him. Sometimes Gustav would be good too... but I can live without.

But:
- Trenches are useless, only HMGs benefit from them.
- Air-drop is too much MP bleeing for short time. Building a normal HMG42 and tech PaK40 is cheaper and arrives earlier.
- no-late-game abilities.


Beside, the StuG E's map-building-damage is complete broken, it is ~6*times MORE damage than Brummbär xDDD
A large wood-house will be destroyed by two hits, while Brummbär needs around 4-6.

a. StuG E is too good versus map-buildings.
b. Brummbär is too bad versus map-buildings.

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I was thinking about the hull-down with the T34.

Also the hull-down is broken. It is fine that a PAnther gets 62,5 range (in fact it works like 60 range) but StuG gets the same. It would be good for StuG if it gets 65 range for hull-down. So it has the ability for the first shot versus tank-hunters. Also it needs a indicator. And Elefant gets way too much range in hull-down.

I made that in a mod some years ago for the patch-team and Mr. Smith. But they didn't used my idea.

Since Brummbär got its rage neft also the multibler in hull-down is way too less to be usefull. Hull-down simply needs a revamp.

I honestly don't know the answer to your question, I'm just stating my opinion from an experienced point of view of spamming trenches and just manning them with Osttruppen but like I said, every time there is a tank in my front yard I need to march them outside and hope to god they don't get all one shot to faust the damn thing and then get them back inside.

If a Panzerbusche upgrade is added it could just be made so they wouldn't be able to use the Panzerfaust or upgrade to the MG42 anymore.

If the upgrade entirely replaced the MG42 I don't think it would be that bad either but it's up to the balance team really, I don't mind it either way as long as I don't have to march them out of the garrison, faust and then march them back in.

Your really use trenches, and if you fill them with Osttruppen?? You should't do that. Osttruppen benefit of the distance between the men and the quick refresh rate. Put them behind a sandbag-wall and build as quick as possible a HQ-bunker or a Sdkfz. 251. If your enemy isn't a soviet, or you know he will not build a M3-clown-car, don't build T1 and push in a new Osttrupp instead or build a MG42 (normally a HMG42 is the biggest enemy of Osttruppen, suppression is bad for Grens and way worse for Osttruppen DPS). Better build a 222 or a PnzGren with Schrecks if you need a AT.


Osttruppen only have 1 weapon-slot, why not:

T3 2*Panzerbüchse39 for one slot.
T4 1*HMG42 for one slot.


Edit: The new Defence-Commander is the better Osttruppen-Commander, because it fills the lack the old one has. The 88 is an option for late-game, while the classic one simply has no options. It also needs a revamp (while the revamp happend is really bad… made of people don't play Osttruppen):

1. Giving Osttruppen non-doc sand-bags would be first thing.
2. Giving Osttruppen a upgrade for 2*Panzerbüchse in T3, in T4 a HMG42 upgrade.
3. The trench-ability has to be replaced with hull-down. (since the trench-ability of Defence-Commander was changed with Bunkers, tank-traps and treches).
4. The air-drop can be removed with a Beute-T34/76, a call-in tank.
5. Instead of air-drop give them a Beute T34/76-call-in with T3 (Limit to 1). Also the Panzerbüchse-Upgrade could be locked behind T3.

-Osttruppen
-Artillerieoffizier
-hull-down
-Beute T34/76
-Gustav

Does it have any difference with Wehrmacht Tiger? Never heard about it.

Playing around with skins was my idea. No, there is no extra blue-print.