Okay but I wasn't. This started with me saying falls got more of an actual dps buff than Rifleman. Then you decided to remove half of the buffs, because reasons.
Falls have a change that effects all ranges (rof buff, ambush bonus) Rifleman do not. Now get back to the topic, this is straying far enough away already
nope it started with u saying
Sort of. It's still only a slight buff to close range dps. The curve just changed, but ranges 0-3 it's still the same dps
So saying it as "straight dps buff" is misleading
which is plain wrong , as from 3 to 15 there is a dps increase with no draw backs and is quite substantial at close range
then instead of saying "sorry i made a wrong statement" u decided to derail |
Yeah I understood what you meant... My point is you can't just remove a buff like that. An ROF buff significantly effects dps...
You are also forgetting Far cooldown buff, and ambush bonus
dude i was comparing just the change to range, if u consider falls change to range a buff than so should be the rifle, yes it increases dps form 3 to 15 range
so it is a straight dps increase |
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same way u deal with commando with brens, but easier: sniper, explosive damage, tanks etc |
I thought you wanted to talk about g43s? I gave you more thoughts on them like you asked
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the fall got 2 changes, buff the mid range point (like rifle) and rof buff,
It is a straight buff to dps from range 3 to 15 |
Yes of course it is, for those ranges. But straight dps buff sounds more like what falls got, not Riflemen. There is a clear scale of difference in those changes
.... well if u remove the fire rate buff, then yes it’s the same as falls |
Sort of. It's still only a slight buff to close range dps. The curve just changed, but ranges 0-3 it's still the same dps
So saying it as "straight dps buff" is misleading
dude, it is a straight dps buff, for the ranges above it
Easy example, if we made shocks close dps range 35 it would be a straight buff for mid and long range |
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Change obers for any close range unit, u get my point |
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This logic of being spanked already at that range makes no sense, should we buff obers to have more long range dps cause they already beat rifle at that range ? |
And then remove all of their long range dps like commando?
Can we seriously stop the "but [insert unrelated allied elite infantry here]" bullshit?
There is no squad in game quite like falls. The issue is their good at all ranges design is too good at all ranges. The old design was better balanced as it was good but only if YOU were good. Now they are good enough to blob and rewarding to do so. If they were not good enough in their previous state perhaps a vet rework is in order but this new design is causing lots of issues. ok, but add 2 lmg upgrade
I would be more than happy for commando instead of falls, just give them 2 lmg 34 like commando with 2 bren to upgrade |
IMO Falls are still too good. Make them 380 MP and remove Faust. then don't forget to add a 5th men like commando |
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