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Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.8 May 2019, 22:44 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 08:18 AMOsinyagov I see three issues here: 1. No skin support (due to every first 76-mm sherman skin nned to be double with short gun) 2. in front of the gun will be untextured hole, from where usually shells launched. I supposed that‘s why all screens were made from the side, but not from the front with perspective. 3. Shells still will be fly from the default point, iow - from nowhere in front of the tank (since gun shorter) So I just stumbled on your comment today, I guess I missed it before. Decided to make a quick and short video. 1. That would be no problem as if it is added officially then it's "skin" becomes the default one, thus other skins can be applied on top of it. 2. Yes you are sadly correct on that one, I asked Trapper about it and he said it's not possible to fix sadly. Still you'd have to be seriously nitpicking in order to notice it. 3. He has given it proper shell spawning and it's own sounds so it doesn't look out of place at all. Here's a couple of more pictures as well: And a link to the mod itself for whoever wants to try it out for themselves: https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=904421369 Just make sure you also subscribe to the Realism mod Skinpack as well or else it will look like the regular 76 Sherman. He also added a few more vehicles using the same method like the StuH42, M4A4 Sherman in British service (cut Firefly basically), Panzer III (cut Panzer IV) and several others. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 23:46 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 23:19 PMLago Could a test mod proof of concept help? Stick it in T3 as a Tuning Pack, maybe. Agreed, I think letting the community test it out and decide based on feedback is the best route to go. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 20:20 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 20:18 PMWingZero I would rather see an Ez8 than a new Sherman tank, plus didn't Devs say the new commanders need to include units that are already in the game? No new models, because Relic keep model editing and importing by the community disabled, for a more than 5 year old game now for whatever reason, does not mean the same thing as no new units. If that were a fact pretty much half of the new commanders wouldn't be present. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 15:58 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 15:49 PMDangerous-Cloth Just don't give it churchill health AND armor. Well it had around 4 inches of Armor on the front of the hull so that would put it a bit under the Pershing's Armor I guess, that would probably roughtly translate to a bit under the Panther's Armor in game I suppose. But I definitely don't think it will have as much health as the KV1 or Churchill. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 15:40 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 15:31 PMVipper You mean like the Easy8 ? Panther armor Armor: 260/90 Easy8 armor Armor: 215/95 Dozer armor Armor: 200/80 Pershing armor Armor: 300/110 New Upgrades dozer Sherman Armor: 215/105 While we're on the subject matter, can you also post the Churchill and KV1 armor specs? In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 15:28 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 15:24 PMLago You know, I'm not entirely certain those slabs are modelled on that Jumbo. It might just be clever texturing, like the gaps in the treads. There's a few other pictures google came up with along with the 2 I posted here but it's the same thing I keep saying, unless you zoom in really close the only thing you're going to notice is the barrel length difference. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 13:59 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 13:58 PMJibberJabberJobber This almost-Jumbo convinces me more than those Airborne Guards arriving with smoke. Yep, also another interesting page report I forgot about also adding details to the Jumbo's story: http://the.shadock.free.fr/sherman_minutia/manufacturer/m4a3e2jumbo/m4a3e2.html Both links are some nice reads for those interested in my opinion. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 13:33 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 13:25 PMKatitof Actually, if anything, its KV-1 in sherman shape. Literally. Difference is that the KV-1 is an entirely different type of tank while the Jumbo is spiritually KV-1 armor plates welded to the T-34 altho with what reports I have seen and heard of Soviet welding I doubt it would have been as effective. Also KV-1 ate 88 fire and it got destroyed, meanwhile the Jumbo like I said frontally shrugged off 88 shells for the most part because it had more than double the KV-1's armor unless they hit a microscopic weak spot in the armor, like the gunner vision slit. There are written reports on the internet for whoever doesn't believe me, like this one: http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/US/m4a3e2-jumbo-assault-tank Just press ctrl + f and search for "88" on the page and you will find what I'm talking about. It's a really detailed look at the Jumbo and even lists reports of in-field modifications and up-armoring of regular 76 Shermans and E8s by cutting bits and pieces of destroyed tanks and welding them to the front. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 13:20 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 13:15 PMT.R. Stormjäger That’s cool and everything, but a Heavy tank does not fit the theme of an urban assault commander. Not only is pathing in the game difficult for heavies in narrow environments, but historically attacking towns with heavy armour was not an option with all the rubble in the streets. I think the jumbo is just a case of people wanting more shiny new stuff. Heavy Tank? What Heavy tank? This is not a Pershing, it's an up-armored Sherman medium tank similar to the British Comet or German Panther. Plus a heavier armored tank is going to be better at assaulting towns and supporting infantry rather than a normal medium tank with a bulldozer fitted at the front or I would arguably even say a rocket tank like the Calliope, not to even mention that the Calliope is basically a meme right now. I mean sure the dozer Sherman could probably clear the rubble on the streets but it won't be able to frontally shrug off an 88 like the Jumbo in a realistic scenario. And yes there is a written account of a Jumbo deflecting 3 88 rounds to it's front before a 4th one hit the gunner aim slit and disabled it. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 13:01 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 12:54 PMT.R. Stormjäger There’s already two unique M4 variants in the game that barely see any use. Why would a third one make any difference? There's 5 in total, standard M4A3 Sherman, M4A3 76(W) Sherman, M4A3 105 Sherman, M4A3E8 Sherman, and the Calliope. This Jumbo would be a 6th variant with more armor, hp, slower and with the same 75mm gun as the standard Sherman but no shell changing, at least in my mind. It would be easier to balance right now than the Bulldozer for Urban Assault and would provide a new and unique useful tank for the new commander that many people want, plus it arguably fits the theme better than any other unit. Of course that if you're assaulting a town you'll want to send in your most armored tank to support your infantry, and not one equipped with a bulldozer blade lol. Also another picture of CoH models of the 76(W) Sherman and Jumbo from a mod: Barely any difference is noticable besides the gun. In: COH2 Gameplay