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Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 12:50 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 12:33 PMLago One millimetre? That's less than the width of these text characters. I'm not sure the game can even render that. This is the CoH model from mods: Like I said, you can barely notice the extra slabs of armor unless you zoom all the way in and even then it's hard to distinguish. The shorter 75mm gun in the 76 gun turret is the biggest visual communication. Of course the 76mm gun equipped Sherman Jumbo in CoH's mods are a little hard to distinguish from the regular 76mm Sherman as well unless they're right next to each othere where you notice that one of the 2 is thicc boi. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 12:25 PM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 12:11 PMLago I can't tell the difference between a short-barrelled 76mm Sherman and a Jumbo. What am I missing? There is no short barreled 76mm Sherman or Sherman with a 75mm gun equipped 76 turret tank. The 76's turret was used because of it's increased weight limit, that's why the Jumbo used it for the increased armor. So unless you put your glass on and zoom out all the way in-game in the middle of battle you will not notice the lack of literally 1mm of the armor on the model and can't confuse it it with the 76 Sherman. Whoever has at least a basic knowledge of WW2 and American Armor, which includes Sherman variants for the most part, will be fine with a shorter barreled 76 Sherman with a different icon and text. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.7 May 2019, 08:06 AM Jump back to quoted post7 May 2019, 07:20 AMSander93 It's over an inch of extra armor, not a millimetre, which makes the front hull noticeably bulkier. Then there's also the mantlet that should look completely different. As far as ingame visual communication goes, if this was a professionally added asset, it would probably get some other very distinctive features on the model that it really needs to make it stand out, like sandbags on the front hull or having crew equipment all over it - just like how the 105mm Sherman comes with the dozer (even though IRL most of them weren't fitted with those) or the unique skin on the Tiger Ace. It's literally a millimeter of armor on the model in-game if you zoom in at max, there is no possible way for someone to notice it in the middle of combat. And the Tiger Ace skin you're referring to is only liked by 2 whole people on this entire site, I can probably even name them. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.6 May 2019, 21:46 PM Jump back to quoted post6 May 2019, 21:38 PMSander93 Bugs are not the same as model quality. Completely ripped out of context, we were talking about gun charactaristics on vehicles that are completely different visually. The Elefant's 88mm KwK43 can behave differently from the King Tiger's because the Elefant and its gameplay role are utterly distinguishable from a King Tiger. A pseudo Jumbo that mostly looks like a Sherman 76 wouldn't be. This is like requesting the Jagdpanther to be in CoH2 and just proposing to use the Panther model with the turret stuck facing forwards because they kinda look the same from a distance. The list of "bugs" is longer but I have to be here the whole day to keep adding to it. As far as your saying goes, I don't think it's out of context, I agree with you in the belief that gameplay is more important here than not having a Jumbo with a visual 1mm of an armor slab added to it's hull and turret armor. And I don't think 1mm of slab armor on the model is the same as a fixed superstructure but alright. It's just going to be sad for a new commander to be such a let down to many people and in the end only the community will suffer. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.6 May 2019, 21:30 PM Jump back to quoted post6 May 2019, 21:18 PMSander93 I don't deny that, I think the Jumbo would be a wonderful adition to USF (it should've been in the stock unit line-up), but the Jumbo simply can not be accurately implemented with the tools that are available and I don't think it's worth putting in a model that only partially looks like one. In fact I doubt Relic would even allow it because of quality standards. You mean the same quality standards as the Soviet Maxim death loop or the ZiS 3's crew getting a heart attack and hopping off and on the gun every time they have to fire the barrage ability? As ddd and Lago have already stated, simply give it a different icon, nobody will seriously zoom in all of the way to view the unit in detail, it's purely for gameplay purposes not to look authentic plus as you said to me in the chat the other day that gameplay takes priority over real life specs? In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.6 May 2019, 21:03 PM Jump back to quoted post6 May 2019, 20:47 PMSander93 It's a nice effort for sure, but it still lacks defining features of the Sherman Jumbo like the extra glacis armor plate and the very thick mantlet that would make the model stand out enough. I personally think the current Sherman variants with all kinds of different amounts of HP and armor are already pushing the boundries of visual communication to the player. A pseudo-Jumbo model that mostly looks like a Sherman 76mm with a shorter barrel but with way higher armor/hp than other similar looking Shermans would make things too confusing. I have to concure with what the others have already said, the people want a Sherman Jumbo to replace the Bulldozer in Urban Assault so we don't have another commander in need of a revamp in the pipeline. It's obvious that the commander is currently the most unpopular of the bunch and a Jumbo might just make it a bit more worthwhile, unique, new and useful all at the same time, not to mention easier to balance. If you don't believe me have a look again at all of the discussions about the commander and see for yourself, I'm not saying I'm a Wizzard by no means or can see in the future but I think I have accurate calling skills from all of my years of experience. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Rebirth of the Sherman Jumbo idea.6 May 2019, 19:57 PM Ladies and Gents, I would like you to meet the Sherman Jumbo: Made by the brilliant creator of the CoH2 realism mod, Trapper(MM). And just to clarify, no the pictures are not photoshopped or edited or altered in any way. The Sherman Jumbo and many others are available in Trapper's CoH2 Realism mod (https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/filedetails/?id=904421369) so you can try it out. He explained to me that a custom skin was used to "cut" the barrel of the 76mm Sherman. Similarly one could create other units by "cutting" features from the in-game models via custom skins. Sadly skins cannot add things to the model of the vehicle, for example making the barrel of the M10 longer to make it the 17 pounder version. Just want to share this with the community as a last effort for a Jumbo for the USF Urban Assault Company in the place of the bulldozer. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Advanced Emplacements Regiment Redesign6 May 2019, 19:43 PM Jump back to quoted post6 May 2019, 19:29 PMLago Soviet nests might need to be a little more expensive given they've got armour-penetrating Dshks in them. Yeah but I mean still, they can be bundled up with the tank traps so the slot is not as useless as Katikof said. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Advanced Emplacements Regiment Redesign6 May 2019, 19:26 PM Jump back to quoted post6 May 2019, 19:11 PMthedarkarmadillo Cries in Soviet tank defensive tactics. To the OP: I actually really like the ideas. Could be fun and not simply cancer like the current shell of a commander. Right... Well I don't play them so yeah... They could be bundled with their own MG nest tho as I suggested for them as well. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: AT infantry section6 May 2019, 18:38 PM Actually, that opens up the idea of the Recon Section (upgrade) taking this one's place in Special Weapons. Altho I like the Boys AT Rifles (mostly because of the name) I'd rather have a snipe ability. In: COH2 Gameplay