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I don't think that is true at all. 10 shots from a t34 landed on a kubel (ts 14) a 100% of the time at max range. At max range against a panther's side the t34 only "missed" 8% of the 25 shots. Do you have any source on this being the way it's calculated? It doesn't line up with anything I've seen in testing.

Sources:
- Cruzz
- Miragefla
- Just about anybody that has ever meddled with the stats

Target size is native, vet0 received accuracy bonus for all entities. Tommies have 0.8 target size at vet0, which makes them so difficult to hit.

What I said was that at max range:
- 60% of the shots will be direct hits (accuracy rolls)
- Some shots will miss their accuracy rolls, but still manage to hit
- Thus, the percentage of shots landing will be at least 60%
- 10 samples is no samples

Direct hit chance depends on accuracy vs target size
Scatter hit chance depends on angle (scatter) vs hitbox size

Read my response again.

I ran my simulator again for the T-34. At max range:
- Accuracy hits have a 60% chance to land against the panther
- Scatter hits have a 55% chance to land against the panther (if the Panther is on a 90° angle at max range)

If we use conditional probabilities, we can infer that the outcome of each attack is:
- 60% direct hit (either front, or rear armour, 100% of the time, depending on the precise positioning)
- 22% (40% * 50%) scatter hits (half of these will probably land on either side)
- 18% misses

You can see that 73% of the hits are going to be direct hits; not scatter rolls.

Panther side armour exposed attacking ground. T34 at max range and everytime the panther's health went below 50% I bumped it's health up.

If you used attack ground, of course you have a good chance to hit the side armour. Attack ground counts as scatter shots. And scatter shots could land anywhere.

However, as I said:
- The vast majority of the hits are going to be direct hits (accuracy), and are NOT going to threaten rear armour
- The rest of the attacks will make a scatter roll
- At max range, you can actually dodge scatter rolls; they are not heat-seeking
- You cant use attack ground mid-fight. It requires micro and makes your tank halt
- Since Panthers are such racecars compared to T-34s, if you halt, you are never going to catch up with them.

The scenario is matching my predictions. 12 kills vs 8 kills so far, but the StG has done more damage and therefore has more vet.

I think you have a point, and that was a mechanic I was not aware of beforehand.

Rifles and LMGs have the "focus_fire" property on, which I assume is what turns singular LMGs into death-ray-laz0r beams.

However, SMGs/assault rifles don't have this property on. This is probably why, even though the affected units deal a ton of DPS, they don't immediately snipe models. I have no idea, however, how the damage is spread (do they affect multiple targets within the same burst or not).

Will see.

I've spoke about this already. It's because the StG damage per bullet gets spread across the models more evenly than the higher damage per bullet kar98.

Your methodology doesn't make sense, but I'll humour you.

Could you provide some evidence of this "spreading" effect happening? I am pretty sure that once an infantry model has acquired a target, it will not switch to a different target until the damn target is dead (or unreachable).

My methodology is all about eliminating noise from your measurements.

If you want to compare the DPS of two weapons, you don't just spawn two squadfuls of them (with mixed weapons even). Just spawn one weapon of each kind and let them do their job. The idea behind spawning 30 Riflemen models is that this will help even out the effects of RNG.

If you disagree with this methodology, what methodology would you use to compare two weapons?

I have just been testing this out myself. It would appear there is something in it. I did tests with two different firing lanes at the same distance (long range) and vs vanilla Riflemen. Supposing the non-StG volks don't lose a model much before the StG volks (due to RNG), these vanilla volks almost always kill the Rifles faster than with the StG upgrade.

In the times when the StG volks do kill them faster it is very very close and not anywhere near the double dps at long range for the 2 longest lasting models that the weapons stats show.

Weird.

It -might- be that Kar98 Volks have equal-ish DPS to MP44 at extreme-max range. I don't know about it yet.

However, keep in mind that all squad engagements are extremely RNG-dependent. It all depends on how your models acquire targets at the initial part of the engagement
- If your models focus fire on a particular enemy model, and the enemy models spread their DPS over yours, you're golden.
- If it's the other way, you're gardened, and this is going to snowball

If you want to take a more statistical route, keep in mind the following thing:
- Try to spawn 1-member squads, to avoid target-acquisition RNG
- If you use cheatmod, use the 'Superman' buff to make your damage-dealers invulnerable
- 10 samples is no samples

Just like in real life, you need at least 30 samples for each case to even consider claiming that you have a case :3

In fact, the best way to settle this:
- Spawn 1 invulnerable Volks model
- Spawn 30 riflemen squads at the same distance away from the Volks squad
- Go out for a coffee
- Post results when you return

a nerf to the cromwell hurt the british faction in general. it's ridiculous to spin it into a positive for the centaur.

the centaur was indirectly buffed due to the removal of the schreck blob, but that's unrelated to the cromwell nerf.

I completely missphrased what I wanted to say. A Cromwell nerf doesn't equate a Centaur buff. It's more like:
- If you relied on crushing faustless Volks pre-patch, consider Centaur for doing the job now.
- Kiting blobs with Centaur post-patch is easier than crushing faust-blobs