Profile of MissCommissar

If people so scared of Panzerschreck - Panzerbusche would be really great, really!

But... then I want PTRS rifles for concsripts after with T1 building. T2 has Maxim and AT - anti-infantry and anti-tank. T1 will have only anti-infanry - superior penals and weak conscripts. With T1-unlockable PTRSs it will be like anti-infantry penals - AT cons with AT rifles and nades.

Everything is perfect!

Okay so if we follow your way of thinking we don't have the tight to judge what hitler did, we don't have the right to judge order 227, we don't have the right to judge Stalin, Mussolini and others men who send people to their death ?

I can explain and understand Hitler's anger. Europe rised their killer by their own hands, cos Germany after WWI was country with no reputation, country, which everyone could humiliate and insult... Only few countries supported Germany those days with keeping normal diplomacy and trade relations, one of them was USSR, lol. Of course, people of Germany could not take it too long, and they choose on democratic elections man, who said, that he will make Germany great again, and will punish all those jews in Europe, who fucked his great country since 20s. Although, that was not jews, but mindless europian politics, who couldn't predict consequences of their actions about Germany.

Whatever happens next is terrible, most horrific war in world's history. But... it was inevitable. So, yes, we can say, that Hitler was terrible, bad, no excuse for that tyran... but we shouldn't forget reasons of that. Only combined understanding of historic actions AND their reasons gives us most objective understanding of history.

Order 227 was made, for to keep soldier's morale in difficult times of 42-43, when it was important to hold the line 'till the last. And that order wasn't so terryfing, like Relic shown us in campaign or western "objective" histroics write. Nobody shooted in soldier's backs with Maxims, nobody shooted soldiers, who ignored the order, but still did right thing. They could be punished, yes, but not exectued. And of course, nobody shooted retreating soldiers, because any reasoable commander understands, how important it is too keep your manpower alive. So, that shit about "Order 227" is mostly western progapanda.

I don't also judge Stalin or Mussolini. That idea, that "Stalin killed more than Hitler" is right only in numbers, but nobody talks about reasons and results. Whatever Stalin did it just made USSR harder. Just in 5 years poor farmer's country was turned into massive industrial beast. All that industry, later, provide to Red Army all that strenght, that stopped Hitler's forces and pushed them back into their lair and killed there. Yea, a lot of innocent people died, a lot of political prioners were... But soviet lived in hard times, USSR got hard lider, that could make hard, but important desicions.

And there is nothing wrong in sending "men to death" in politics, because - it is politics. As future officer myself I understand it. No matter how good men under your command you have you should understand 1 thing - they are in real war just expendable material, resourse, like oil or money. It's your job, as commander, as leader, as leader of entire country to use and spend those resourses right, for to get results. Nobody can judge you for you doing your job, but you can be judged for doing your job wrong. Stalin did a lot of wrong things in 1941-42, nobody excueses him for that. But still, he won that war, he saved our country, liberated Europe from nazi, captured Berlin.

So, I think, Stalin used all his resourses pretty well, if we will look on results.

Oh yeah you talk about his battle where soviet got more than the double of the men of the japs and 5 times more arties,and where the japs equipment was send to the pacific front, so they got only light tank and training aircraft


Oh you want to talk about US in the pacific, please don't try, just don't, you make everyone laugh at you


Oh and somedays open real history books and stop looking at propaganda BS

Well, then it will be discussion like "my propaganda vs your propaganda", I suppouse. About Japaneese.

But I hope, we won't argue about the fact, that in late war USSR had way more experienced and combat trained soldiers, than new conscripted. They all mostly were conscripts of 1942-43, so they had already years of combats and were more than enough skillful. But... in CoH 2 our mainline infantry is again "suppoused to be total nuubs" Conscripts, always ignored by balancing team of Relic and now we get overbuffed Penals, which will be our mainline... I think, that's conscripts should be overbuffed, and Penals should be kinda support infantry. Not like now - Penals mainline, Conscripts - support with AT-nades.

Mate, you really have to stop with these threads.

Open your extra and mind for what really happend in WW II besides what the propaganda told you or what you want to believe as true. History is always blurred by blind patriotism.

Most soldiers were criminals in WW II. They raped, they stole, they murdered prisoners of war and they killed civilians. All sides, no exceptions.
Think about that before demanding "Angry, brave and absolutelty unstopable." heroes like in Call of Duty which is as historical correct as Braveheart and The Lion King.

Sorry for slight off topic but I had to say that!

Good news for you - there are no "criminals" on war, actually, in our everyday understanding of that word, we don't talk about "military crimes" now. There are no civil rules, just can't be. All those conventions, morale cryings of naive politics/hippies and all that bullshit - just dissapers after first hours of real war for people. Rape, steal, murdering and killing civilians - can't say, that it is all OK, but that's how things on all wars goes. It's understandable.

People killing each other, losing everything, that they had... Imagine, how much soviet people, soviet soliders lost during all those tough years of fighting. Houses, families, friends... It becomes understandable, why soldiers wanted to revenge so hard to their enemies.

And for history correction should say, that Soviet high command tried to prevent all those things as hard as they could. For raping, killing civilians in liberated cities or even for stealing - executions mostly or serivce in Penal, if soldiers/officers had some achivments. It wasn't like in "Enemy at gates" or how that bullshit called... Dicipline was important, so commanders keeped eye on that hard.

Btw, that's all about "moralistic cryings about war". Thread is about Penals, which were 100% formated with military criminals (low diciplines, alcogholics, same rapist, thiefs, etc...) and criminals from prisons and camps, who wanted to go on front and protect Motherland as all other people did.

We have 2 stock soviet infantry squads in game. First are clear and good Conscripts, real combat and morale core of Red Army. Second are Penals - we already understood, who they were mostly. What Relic did - overbuffed Penals, totally ignored underpowered (personal opinion) Cons. So, now soviet players will just have to use Penals as core, as mainline infantry, ignoring Cons - so small their firepower is. I don't think that it is historically or logically correct.

That would be same as "overbuffing expandable for Reich Osttrupen traitors" ignoring "good and race clean soldiers of Reich - grenadeers". It just goes against simple logic! I don't have anything against buffing Penals but... It doesn't make sense.

Still waiting for famous axis thread

Why from me? People will write about axis whining threads right after new patch will come. There will be such shitstorm of posters, they won't even need me.

Maybe I will write thread about Axis, when case with balance and patches will be more quiet and stable. Right now it's difficult to talk about balance, while it is all on paper...