it's ok because "l2p"
That is correct.
The cost of setting it up is immense, and you are seriously overblowing it's effectiveness on the field. It does not have brace, it does not outrange AT guns, and Sturmpios have the lowest repair speed out of all repair units. It does not require the combined arms approach of a Bofors, nor is it as cheap, nor does it wipe infantry in under a second. Get one tank destroyer, one AT gun or one indirect fire unit and start firing at it. |
Please provide single argument why these OKW advantages, which were compensations for reduced income, should not be "nerfed to hell" in form of giving them proper side costs now when they don't have reduced income?
Single, valid argument.
That is, if axis fanboys like you are still capable of such heroic feat.
If you can't, that visit at psychiatrist will be fine for wednesday at 11 for you?
Look son, your l2p problems are not balance problems. The AA truck is not causing any problems for anyone. Reduced income was removed, and costs were increased subsequently. If getting a single at gun or any indirect fire unit is too hard for you then that explains a lot of your opinions on the forums. If it's so gamebreaking, why aren't we seeing any OKW dominance?
Besides, you were a staunch advocate of the theory that OKW income penalty does not alternate the costs of units or buildings for OKW, so your entire 'income penalty' argument is disproven by yourself.
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Please, don't feed them. It's their daily portion of food in the net.
Keep it away from them and they will slowly perish 
Son, it doesn't matter what you say. You started sprouting bs and you got called out on it now you go back to the 'b-but he is just a troll' facade. rank 5000+ 4v4 is waiting for you. |
Right now lelic claims that batshitOP ostheer have 0,577 winrate. And soviets with all garbage and expensive units and tiers 0,74.
Since when they started to lie in that blatant way?
If theoreticaly their stats arent lie then its just a meaningless data. But its more likely to be lie.
To be fair, the stats vary quite a bit because the sample size is too small. I calculated how big the samplesize should be but I forgot about it, I think I'll post it later. If a bunch of people decide to play soviets only then they will win quite a bit more than the few ostheer players.
Do you really think Ostheer is 20% less capable than Soviets? I understand what you're saying but you shouldn't look into this too deeply. The charts website is a little bit flawed because it's only intervals of one week. |
I was directing the comparison to the quoted sentence, you don't have a direct cost to unlock the flak (0 mp, 0 mun, 0 fuel). You undoubtedly have an indirect cost in the form of a requirement that has to be fulfilled (building the structure, or buying the car). If you won't call a product that has no direct cost but needs certain conditions to be fulfilled (indirect cost) free, I won't argue with you.
It feels silly to discuss the term "free" here when everybody knows what is referred, i.e. OKW getting powerful perks while having the same(fuel), or cheaper(mp) teching costs as other factions, so I won't play along.
There is an indirect cost as well as a direct one. Indirect is buying the truck, direct is the cost itself. If you call the Flak part free, then you are blatantly lying. There is nothing to discuss about, this unit is not free. If it would be free, I could buy an infinite number of them in a finite timespan. But I cannot.
Otherwise I could say the P4's main gun is free, it should only have the mgs to start with, the gun should be unlockable. I hope I don't need to explain how utterly retarded this would be. |
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To be honest I think the only bad thing about the calliope is that it fires three salvos, which is like Pwerfer + Katyusha combined. Most of it's OPness stems from the fact that it's kinda new |
You're comparing apples to oranges.
No I'm NOT comparing apples to oranges. USF teching units like Major or Lieutenant as well as OKW HQ abilities are not free, because you pay for them.
Wether you pay a lot or not or wether the price is justified is irrelevant, because they are not free. If the title would be 'OKW Schwerer HQ not expensive enough' then there would be nothing that is objectively disprovable.
If I would make Shrecks unlockable like USF, put the unlock costs at 500 Munitions, and each Shreck 0 munitions, then the Shreck would NOT be for free.
If it WOULD be, then an unlock cost of 500 Munitions and 0 munitions Shreck cost would result in an absolute increase of Shrecks on the field per game. Do you think this would be the case? |
How much you pay additionally to normal teching costs to get that AA?
Oh, that is right, ZERO.
Therefore, its free.
Really simple concept.
Oh and anvil RE LMGs have a cost since last year. Keep up with the changes.
Except that it isn't. If you buy a Shreck upgrade, you get a shreck + cold immunity. Which of these two is for free?
If you buy a unit which has a vet 1 ability, and it has to be unlocked in a tier, is that for free? No. If Bazookas would cost 0 Munitions, would they be free? No they wouldn't, because you need to unlock them first.
If you buy a car and get a bonus tire with it, did you get that tire for free?
Go into your university and ask a professor of economics or informatics what he thinks about this.
You buy a car, and to this car you get a tire. This tire is not free as you need to buy the car first. If the tire costs 100$, it would be the same as if the car would cost 100$ less.
The tire would be free if you could go to the guy, get the tire and return with the tire and everything else you had with you. |
Not going to take a bait and feed you even more.
Which is synonymous for 'I have no arguments anymore' just like saying 'X is free' is synonymous for saying either 'I have no clue about this game' or 'I don't like this faction and will take every opportunity to pull it into the dirt' |
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USF earlygame is strong, but the reason it is strong is because their lategame isn't.
If you nerf USF earlygame you will either buff their lategame or hit the balance. |
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