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Thread: How to counter grens with LMG as Soviets?7 Jul 2015, 10:38 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 10:09 AMchipwreckt Ostheer mortar is better Anyways, Im suprised no one suggested the M5 with Quad. Perfect vs gren heavy stats, get some mortars/ mines to protect it. Its a beast this patch, it reks everything, and is vet3 in 5mins. Its is a little to potent imo. Completely forgot about it! I've tested it in a few 4v4 and it worked wondeful even against schreck blobs! In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Cruzz's The More You Know7 Jul 2015, 10:32 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 10:10 AMKatitof Well, you're describing the last resort situation. I have on mind constant reinforcement, say you lost 1 men after a shootout, you merge it, now you've got tad weaker squad, on the long run and especially in late game, where due to LMGs rec acc matters a LOT, you'll be making your opponent a favor while trying to keep your squads on field without M5. So M5 got indirect buff! Yay! In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Ostheer Sniper Op, When NERF ?7 Jul 2015, 10:10 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 09:18 AMZyllen Katitof Oh your completely correct. the ost sniper at the moment is better then the soviet sniper. But still the situation is balances because the allied factions have better much LV's at their disposal then the axis and thus much easier time dealing with the ost sniper. You still see dual or even triple snipers teams in 2vs2 or 3v3 games because the soviet player knows it is a risk free investment. The ost player cannot say the same. the ost sniper needs support from grens to shield it from any m3 or m20. any screw up and you will lose your very expensive 360 mp investment. I agree - the big picture is bigger than just comparsion between two sniper units. But hey, complaining about Wehrmacht sniper getting countered by its direct counter - the M20? And how USF player is supposed to fight Sniper if he went Captain tier? M20 isn't something that you have by default, it is good player decision in fight against sniper, it should be rewarded. No, that is not the reason why it got HP buff. Wehrmacht sniper definitly needed buff in survivability because WFA wrecked survivability/DPS balance between Axis and Allies basic infantry. That's why I think that something around 60 HP is sweet spot for Wehrmacht sniper. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer Sniper Op, When NERF ?7 Jul 2015, 09:19 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 08:59 AMBrutusHR If he gets sniper super early that means there are grens or MG squad less. IF u kill sniper early its GG for him. Reduce that 2HP and its good. Let's give Wehrmacht choice to have Tiger I from start, but block ability to build other units. That means there are no grens of MG squads. IF u kill Tiger early its GG for him. Sounds dumb? Agreed. But that how you sounded. Bad player decisions (get sniper early without good coverage of other units) are not justification for units having overpowered stats. It's not like sniper is useless even when you already got 2 grens and 2 MG42 out. Especially against Soviet players who try to stall for call-ins. You see... if Wehrmacht sniper lose 60 HP and successfully retreated to the base, Wehrmacht player lost nothing except field presence. If Soviet Sniper team lose 60 HP, probably one model will die which result in 90 MP loss. If both sniper units get hit by 100 DMG AoE - both die. So, Wehrmacht have 4 model squads, but high long range DPS, so Soviet sniper team have low firepower and high survivability (2 models, 40+40 = 80 HP total, lose 40 HP = 90MP reinforce) Soviets have 6 model squads, but low long range DPS, so Wehrmacht sniper have higher firepower and ... WHOOOOOPS! BETTER SURVIVABILITY (1 model, 82 HP, lose 40 HP = 0 MP bleed, can be healed on the field with medkit) How is that fair? I think that something around 60 HP is sweet spot for Wehrmacht sniper. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer Sniper Op, When NERF ?7 Jul 2015, 08:32 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 08:10 AMMr. Someguy Move mortar up, kill Sniper on first hit, Sniper's fault? 1) Sniper usually should not be seen until he make a shot. After that you reposition him backwards for reload, so he is moving and won't be hit. 2) You can hear mortar firing, time between sound and shell landing is quite long, so you have time to react. 3) If Wermacht sniper would have 80 HP it would be still very good protected against mortar shells because lethal AoE is still quite small, unlike for 40 HP Soviet sniper models. Mortars are not very effective against snipers if latter are properly controlled. The real threat is LeIG with its homing projectiles. And yes, I've lost many snipers to mortars before I've learned how to avoid it. And still sometimes I lose them, because my micro isn't perfect. I'm saying this as senior both-faction sniper user and fan of triple "Point and Click" bulletins Hell, I've used Wermacht sniper even before HP buff and was very happy with it because of high RoF and Incendiary Shot. Just check this video! In: COH2 Balance
Thread: CAS Axis cmrd is by far the best cmdr for team games (3vs3+)7 Jul 2015, 07:38 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 05:51 AMJohnnyB He knows alot of things, almost all about this game, but I am not the only one that observed he is a little allied biased. That is why I do not trust in his opinions 100%. It's not like I would know not even half of what he knows or even play at his level. Or that I am not biased myself. These being said, the man is biased and it shows. Never saw a word against allied posted by him, against axis on the other hand.... This is my opinion and since is a free world I can express it. Would you trust him more if he was "a little axis biased"? Have you thought of possibility that you (and all those guys) are a little biased by yourself and therefore you percieve his opinion as little allies biased, but in fact he is INDEED ALMIGHTY GOD THAT CAME TO GIVE US A WORD OF PURE WISDOM AND UNOBSTRUCTED TRUTH?! In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ostheer Sniper Op, When NERF ?7 Jul 2015, 07:00 AM Wermacht Sniper is very strong now, but I don't think he's OP. 360 MP is a huge cost, especially in the early game. btw I ALWAYS build sniper in 4v4 when playing Wermacht Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 06:31 AMGrumpy The Soviet sniper is sometimes killed by a single random mortar shot. Back when Soviets had precision strike, there were times that I would do a precision strike with a 82mm mortar on a sniper and it would still not kill him. I've even hit one with a grenade and not have it die. IMHO, if someone is careless enough to get their sniper hit by either mortar or grenade they should lose it. Having used both snipers, I very much prefer the OST one. It's easier to keep alive, and don't have any reinforce cost due to losing a model. Maybe instead of nerfing the Ost, make the Soviet one the same. If you managed to get so close to hit him with grenade, you probably should be able to score some hits with small arms too. In that case sniper should be dead. Unless you've "almost missed" with grenade. Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 06:53 AMMr. Someguy Uh, the reason he has 82hp and not 80hp is so lucky mortar can't kill him in one hit. Relic wants to reduce RNG in the game, not make a 320MP unit get killed randomly by something you can't avoid. If you're sitting in mortar range and not moving then it is not RNG, but natural outcome. Or should they buff Soviet Sniper Team HP to 82 in order to "reduce RNG in the game"? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: CAS Axis cmrd is by far the best cmdr for team games (3vs3+)7 Jul 2015, 05:39 AM Jump back to quoted post7 Jul 2015, 03:40 AMvoltardark We been playing Axis lately and CAS is my favorite. Axis are so fun to play. I understand why they are so liked. Anyone who have played both side in 4vs4 can see that Axis are a lot easier and much more rewarding. So for me Axis = Fun,easy to play, versatile and powerful. Allies = Redundant, harder to play, have some good units and you must like to suffer. (like me) For the sake of COH2, this must change, both should be fun and as powerful as the other side. Plz don't nerf the CAS cmdr cause it's so fun to play with, rather add some allies cmrds with good stuff. Allies fun factor must be improved. How about this: For me Axis is easier to play in 4v4 and therefore not fun. Winning is not so rewarding. Playing 4v4 as Allies on the other side gives much more satisfaction when you win (because it was uphill battle) and less frustration when you lose (because it was uphill battle anyway ) Winning is especially rewarding when you manage to stomp Axis players on your part of map right from start and then go to your allies on the other part of map and stomp Axis there. But I do agree - playing against CAS (or worse - double CAS o_o) is annoying at least. I've lost count how many Katys I've lost to recon + AT strafe right on my base when I was controling some dense engagement. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: CAS Axis cmrd is by far the best cmdr for team games (3vs3+)6 Jul 2015, 20:07 PM Jump back to quoted post6 Jul 2015, 19:21 PMJohnnyB For the record, since Cruzz is not God allmighty himself, I think I can say what I believe and not blindly follow his opinions. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: How to counter grens with LMG as Soviets?6 Jul 2015, 19:28 PM Try double snipers with "Point and Click" bulletins (sight range and rate of fire). With at least two of these your snipers can spot for themselves. You won't have any problems with MG42 ever and can defeat grens with attrition (each sniped gren model = -30 MP) If you've managed to decrew and capture MG42, better put it into some building protecting flank. Grenadiers will have hard time to take it out. In order to deal easily with rushed 222 scout car pick Tank Hunter Tactics or any other commander with Guards. Best way not to lose snipers to some vehicle rush is to plant early mines in zone where you will operate most of the time. Watch your step if wermacht player has built mortar. If you play against blobber - plant demo charges and lure enemy blob onto them with your snipers. Luring into positions prepared with sandbags works well too, just watch out for those rifle grenades. If you feel that you win in fuel race you may try to rush T-70 or just go straight to T-34 spam. Don't forget to support them with your snipers to take out those Pak-40s. If things went bad and you feel that Ostwind or Pz.IV will come out soon, you'd better build T2 for AT guns and then stall for call-ins. Remember to put your AT guns behind front line, because your forces probably ain't sufficient to withstand heavy infantry push, because you've invested much MP into snipers. In: COH2 Gameplay