Rak 43 proposal

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2019, 20:23 PMdistrofio

I'd say that raks are not "broken" in the meaning of OPness, but broken because they fail to complete they prupose. Cheeseketen is the only way to push back its AT capabilities.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2019, 21:10 PMJae For Jett

While damage reduction is nice, I'm not sure how much it'll do. Usually, if a tank round lands near the crew, it'll get instawiped, .9 damage modifier or not.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2019, 20:18 PMFlyingsmonster

but changing its range to 60 and making it unable to retreat just turns it into a slightly weaker Pak40 with 10 less penetration.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2019, 20:18 PMFlyingsmonster

I agree with most of what Vipper said. The Rak isn't in that bad of a spot right now, but changing its range to 60 and making it unable to retreat just turns it into a slightly weaker Pak40 with 10 less penetration.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 00:42 AMKoRneY

raks are more durable than paks? I feel like if you sneeze on them their volksturm crew will run for the hills

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2019, 20:10 PMVipper

1) Veterancy overhaul so that bonuses do not revolve mostly around cloak and also benefit garrison

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 02:04 AMSkysTheLimit

*They would be if they had a 5th man. This is in the context of the suggestion I made in the OP, but I think people favor a different route anyway



I very much agree with this especially the garrison part. I don't know if it's not functional enough or there's not a lot of maps where it's effective, but I don't see/use this feature enough.

My hunch is that camo makes using buildings with the Rak not worth it.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 02:31 AMFarlon

Garrisoning raketen is completely useless because it won't prioritize vehicles anymore.

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2019, 20:10 PMVipper

I would try the following changes:

1) Veterancy overhaul so that bonuses do not revolve mostly around cloak and also benefit garrison

2) Cloak available only when stationary

3) Reaction times greatly reduced

4) lowered penetration but deflection damage similar to other rocket munition

5) 0.9 damage reduction of crew

6) greater angle when in trench

7) maybe damage reduction

Now requires first set up. Faust unlocked when Truck is built

Jump back to quoted post8 Mar 2019, 22:44 PMSkysTheLimit

That option included an extra man, so it would be more durable than the Pak and it can still be garrisoned. But I included different options for that exact reason, I don't think it's good for the game if it all the units slowly become more similar.

I think retreat should maybe be disabled when camoflauged. Give removing camo a 5 second timer, and now you can't have people just hitting "T" everytime they get discovered.

Jump back to quoted post9 Mar 2019, 02:48 AMLoopDloop

Lowered penetration could make it really annoying to use too though. If one really wanted to make it less lethal I think a firerate reduction or even (mayyyyyybeee) damage reduction.