Schwerer Flak Truck Balance ideas

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 14:15 PMOmega_Warrior

The difference is that the free USF squads don't completely shut down elements of the game. Shore USF might get an extra boon when they tech, but no playstyles are specifically prevented against them. Even the captain lost it's free zooks so that they don't get a automatic vehicle counter.

On top of that they do end up paying pop costs over time, so they aren't exactly as free as they seem.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 14:15 PMOmega_Warrior

The difference is that the free USF squads don't completely shut down elements of the game. Shore USF might get an extra boon when they tech, but no playstyles are specifically prevented against them. Even the captain lost it's free zooks so that they don't get a automatic vehicle counter.

On top of that they do end up paying pop costs over time, so they aren't exactly as free as they seem.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 19:29 PMBudwise

More OKW nerfs plz.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 06:53 AMTiger Baron

If you put a price on it you'll have to nerf the other side techs' costs so it's fair.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 06:53 AMTiger Baron

If you put a price on it you'll have to nerf the other side techs' costs so it's fair.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 18:48 PMZyllen

That is simply not true every faction has strengths and weaknesses that puts certain play styles at a disadvantage or makes it outright impossible. if you play against the okw and use planes then its your own fault, planes are not shot down 100 % of the time anyway.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 05:06 AMSmiling Tiger

Im pretty sure the Bofors needs to be crewed to get suppression and I meant that the Schwerer gun could effectively hit any target in its range, so of course units out of its range cant be hit.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 21:03 PMSmiling Tiger

Actually on small 1v1 maps and team games with more than 1 OKW player planes are pretty much out of the question and the problem is that its not really a conscious choice that the OKW has to make to cancel other opponents strategies it just fluidly happens through their teching with the SChwerer HQ.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 22:08 PMZyllen

Then dont use planes against the okw. This is not a problem of the flak but of bad players.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 21:52 PMinsaneHoshi

No it still suppresses.

So apart from its counters its effective? And the shwer isnt effective against all medium tanks and furthermore smoke nullifies the truck too.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 21:49 PMnee

It's fine. If anything it needs to be smarter and shoot the tank killing it rather some far away plane that's already flying away after dropping payload.
If I want a specific nerf it's to reduce it's AA range, if at all possible. I would think the primary design purpose of this structure (it's not a unit per se) is for ground defense rather than aerial denial.

Reduce it's firepower and it's just a lemon and no one will ever deploy it front lines ever again (though that might be your agenda).

Make it side tech and people will still complain that it's free and that it shouldn't be there at all, and you also get Ostheer clone either way.

I do wonder, however, if this thing is affected by smoke? I swore a few times I've seen it, the gun still fires even when I or enemy fires smoke at it.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 21:49 PMnee

I do wonder, however, if this thing is affected by smoke? I swore a few times I've seen it, the gun still fires even when I or enemy fires smoke at it.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 19:36 PMsiuking666

Well the suppression on that gun is kinda annoying.

Jump back to quoted post14 Aug 2016, 23:18 PMThunderhun

We could say the same about a maxim beating a pre-set MG-42.

Well the suppression on that gun is kinda annoying, first bullet drops squads to the ground.