A radical idea to rebalance T-34/76

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2016, 16:28 PMsome one

Give T-34 stats of Cromwell and adjust price. Problem fixed. THis will be real T-34

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2016, 15:54 PMMr.Smith

- Meta-Problem: Soviets can't trade efficiently MP-wise in extreme-late game. Unless they pick one of the few valid late-game doctrines
- Meta-Solution: Give soviets a unit that is efficient MP-wise. But make it inefficient FU-wise, so that it can't be spammed too much.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2016, 18:26 PMTheSleep3r

How about giving Soviets a unit that is both efficient manpower-wise and fuel-wise?

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2016, 16:23 PMEarth

I've been saying this since the day that they put T-34/76 into T4, "Put T-34/85 in T4 and T-34/76 in T3 but with an increased cost of fuel not MP." And no one is listening to me.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2016, 00:21 AMKurobane

The Battle of Kursk, the largest tank battle in history betwen the Germans and Russians was interesting. Prior to this, most tank warfare was done at max range possible but in the battle of Kursk, the superior armor of the Germans didn't mean much due to the short range combat. T34 tanks were able to penetrate Tiger Tanks.

Currently the T-34 has this for penetration :
Far : 80
Mid : 100
Near: 120
https://imgur.com/JFfx4Wq

Proposal : When handling Infantry, certain units are better at different ranges (Such as Shock Troops, Panzer Grenadiers etc needing to be close) When dealing with Tanks this is not a consistant gameplay that you encounter throughout the game as most Tank Warfare is basicaly "poke, poke, retreat,repair". It would be interesting if Tanks such as the T-34 would be excellent close range while still being terrible at Mid and Far ranges. This would fit its "style" or theme as a flanking tank.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2016, 20:51 PMAustralian Magic

I don't like making it more fuelwise expensive but avaible from T3.
It will change nothing. It still will be the worse medium in game by a far.
It's like making Penals 220MP and avaible from T0. Earlier, cheaper but still not useful.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2016, 19:45 PMferwiner

I like the 210/100fu idea, it would both support less used doctrines late game and blend well into 1 heavy tank limitation of used doctrines that leaves lots of fuel to spend. It copies the unique feature of t-70, but in same faction and different tier so its ok IMO.

Jump back to quoted post19 Apr 2016, 16:34 PMAustralian Magic

Im still for making T34/76 a doctrinal call in.

Make T34/85 Non doc, while T34/76 would be cheap and weak call in with T3 required.

Jump back to quoted post20 Apr 2016, 01:18 AMDullahan

I think you'd find if you actually used things you'd find out what they're good at for them. Penals are better than cons in almost every way as a fighting unit, dealing nearly double the damage up close, beating out both volks and grenadiers. At 220MP and T0 they would excel greatly.


Likewise, a T-34/76 coming out a minute or two after an AEC or a stuart would be a pretty big deal. It is better than both of those units in nearly every way.