Next patch sneak peak by Relic

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Spot on. Although I have no hope in seeing the game optimized, its harder to fix it than to right a new one for their next project (DoWIII maybe). Anyway, as you said, it should be their top priority if they ever want to make it to ESL. Imagine those Bug splats in ESL...

Rip in peppironi kv8 and why they nerf grenades?

I hope that's the incendiary grenades, so just one 30 muni `nade doesn't burn a 150+mp fighting position or mortar pit to ground. Be nice if there was warning before they threw it, too.

Marcus always has these best posts, man. How can we compete D:

Starcraft 2 does not have bugs.

Balance issues sure, but not bugs.

Yeah, but SC2's design is radically different, and, if I may say, shit.
Macro is the end-all-be-all skill in that game and thus it hampers depth, macro boosters are tons of complexity for depth, the micro in that game has, again, tons of complexity and about medium depth. Deathballs still exist, harassment ends games which leads to way too powerful static defenses. Positioning is pretty much non-important. The learning curve is so broken and unintuitive, the skill ceiling is low in a lot of areas, the skill floor is high.

Blizzard would be better off copy pasting Starbow over the multiplayer of LotV. Leagues better.
Every studio ever should always take balance problems over design problems any time of the day forever ever.

Halo Wars 2 is the only upcoming RTS that might have any chance of good design.
Planetary Annihilation has good design, and finally fixed their singleplayer in a sense, but it's not my type of dealio at this point, also my computer is pretty meh.
Company of Heroes 2 is well designed in a number of ways, and Relic has been really good recently about revamping silly stuff like plane / flame / explosives rng and design. We've got balance issues, though.

This game was released 2 years ago,it is still suffering from balance problems, bugs, exploits and optimization issues.




Move on to greener pastures folks, there are better, higher quality games out there.

post like that is the reason i d like to propose to implement in the forums the +1 or _1 comment beneath each post.


HATERS GONA HATE!

While I'm still putting effort in the game, for me the point is that it's all going too slow. In a year, COH2 will look outdated because that's just how the game industry goes. Players will gradually leave because the gaming undustry is giving them too many options.

So as a company, you have to focus on not only maintaining the playerbase ('balance patches') , but also on attracting new players. As the optimization rules out a certain amount of players with laptops and bad systems, you rule out a big percentage of gamers.
Secondly, this game aint ready for serious competition aka Esports, which is extremely important this day. Don't believe it - check out the top games and check their Esport involvement.

So balance patches are cool yeah, but are not enough.
This is ofcours my opinion and you don't have to agree with it

This game was released 2 years ago,it is still suffering from balance problems, bugs, exploits and optimization issues.

Move on to greener pastures folks, there are better, higher quality games out there.

Ok name at least two currently active RTS games (not Command & Conquer clones) that is a "higher quality game" than COH2.

Let's try to be more fair here. When it comes to RTS, Blizzard are just C&C copycats and I think Relic deserve abit more credit as pioneers in RTS along with Creative Assembly with the Total War series.

IIRC, Blizzard Entertainment have been publishing their own games for many years. Relic Entertainment had to work with at least 4 different publisher with one going bankrupt.

To name a few;
Homeworld 1 + 2, Sierra Entertainment
Impossible Creatures, Microsoft
Dawn of War, THQ
COH, THQ
COH2, SEGA

CA & Relic are both pioneers in RTS that have been living in the shadow of Starcraft and others C&C copycats for more than a decade. Yes Blizzard currently make good MMO/MOBA games.
But when it comes to RTS, they cant continue to just milk money from classic C&C RTS which are a dying game genre on PC.

In South Korea, SC1 eSport & community helped alot to build up "hype" for SC2's popularity in the EU/US.
Now the SC2 hype are dieing in South Korea, Blizzard RTS will die slowly with it.
Many players are moving to MOBA/MMO games and Bllizard are moving with games such as Overwatch (team based FPS) and Hearthstone + Heroes of the storm. Bllizard are just not going to take the risk with innovative RTS like Relic and Creative Assembly or to create a MMO RTS.
It's getting pretty obvious for potential eSport sponsors that Blizzard are abandoning RTS for MOBA/MMO games. So that eventual will mean less money for SC2 tournaments. For CA/Relic that mean if they polish their RTS franchise (console + pc) they can get more attention from eSport sponsors that want to focus on innovative RTS that can potentially take over from SC2.

Mobile casual RTS games (Game of War + Clash of Clans) are more popular than ever and casual gamers are the fastest growing community in the gaming industry. Console/mobile RTS = Casual gamer, PC RTS = less casual and more hardcore RTS.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/03/the-shocking-truth-about-mobile-gaming.html


Compared to most COH2 players I am an relative old RTS/MMO gamer. I played Homeworld 1 in the top10 ladder and was also a top player/visionary leader in a very complex MMO game (EvE Online).
HW1 released 1 year after SC1 and was light years ahead of Blizzard in innovation.
With Homeworld, Dawn of War and COH, Relic have made at least 3 innovative RTS games that are not C&C clones.

So stop with the naysaying. Either believe in COH2 (or COH3/DoW3) and help make history. Or go back to C&C clone games and have fun with that dieing era. Your choice.

[...] I played Homeworld 1 in the top10 ladder and was also a top player/visionary leader in a very complex MMO game (EvE Online).
[...]

Goons or gtfo! Eve is dying too after the "No more Multiboxing tools" EULA change...

War spoils not gonna be fixed or reworked? What a shame

Goat Simulator 2016. It's much better than CoH2

THEN LEAVE.

Pretty disappointing that warspoils won't be fixed. At the very least relic could clean up some of the warspoils that no longer function or that are entirely useless (looking at you Jagdtiger call-in cooldown reduction).

Agree with all of these, people need to see the glory of the Comet tank and it's insta wipe cannon.

https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKlnjwzT1IruAZFb0EA-5pQ

im waiting for halo wars 2 ^^ soo hypee

Ayyyeee this right here. Lol my friends and I are excited about this game too. My friends and I used to be top 10 death match. I hope to see a lot of old faces and names I haven't seen or talked to in years

Wargame series is really good too.

This game was released 2 years ago,it is still suffering from balance problems, bugs, exploits and optimization issues.




Move on to greener pastures folks, there are better, higher quality games out there.

So? The way CoH is (RNG) makes it much harder to balance than other RTS like SC or AoE.
Even Smash Bros 4 is screwing up balance from patch to patch, adding exploits and so on. Just to mention a big player.

You can't say they don't try. With their new community manager things got A LOT better.

Ok name at least two currently active RTS games (not Command & Conquer clones) that is a "higher quality game" than COH2.

Let's try to be more fair here. When it comes to RTS, Blizzard are just C&C copycats and I think Relic deserve abit more credit as pioneers in RTS along with Creative Assembly with the Total War series.

IIRC, Blizzard Entertainment have been publishing their own games for many years. Relic Entertainment had to work with at least 4 different publisher with one going bankrupt.

To name a few;
Homeworld 1 + 2, Sierra Entertainment
Impossible Creatures, Microsoft
Dawn of War, THQ
COH, THQ
COH2, SEGA

CA & Relic are both pioneers in RTS that have been living in the shadow of Starcraft and others C&C copycats for more than a decade. Yes Blizzard currently make good MMO/MOBA games.
But when it comes to RTS, they cant continue to just milk money from classic C&C RTS which are a dying game genre on PC.

In South Korea, SC1 eSport & community helped alot to build up "hype" for SC2's popularity in the EU/US.
Now the SC2 hype are dieing in South Korea, Blizzard RTS will die slowly with it.
Many players are moving to MOBA/MMO games and Bllizard are moving with games such as Overwatch (team based FPS) and Hearthstone + Heroes of the storm. Bllizard are just not going to take the risk with innovative RTS like Relic and Creative Assembly or to create a MMO RTS.
It's getting pretty obvious for potential eSport sponsors that Blizzard are abandoning RTS for MOBA/MMO games. So that eventual will mean less money for SC2 tournaments. For CA/Relic that mean if they polish their RTS franchise (console + pc) they can get more attention from eSport sponsors that want to focus on innovative RTS that can potentially take over from SC2.

Mobile casual RTS games (Game of War + Clash of Clans) are more popular than ever and casual gamers are the fastest growing community in the gaming industry. Console/mobile RTS = Casual gamer, PC RTS = less casual and more hardcore RTS.

http://www.cnbc.com/2015/08/03/the-shocking-truth-about-mobile-gaming.html


Compared to most COH2 players I am an relative old RTS/MMO gamer. I played Homeworld 1 in the top10 ladder and was also a top player/visionary leader in a very complex MMO game (EvE Online).
HW1 released 1 year after SC1 and was light years ahead of Blizzard in innovation.
With Homeworld, Dawn of War and COH, Relic have made at least 3 innovative RTS games that are not C&C clones.

So stop with the naysaying. Either believe in COH2 (or COH3/DoW3) and help make history. Or go back to C&C clone games and have fun with that dieing era. Your choice.

im a big fan of rts games i have done my long research and couldnt find decent rts game beside coh2, actually there is one but it lack of activity bcz EA lost its liscense and official servers are down: "The Rise Of The Witch-King" Known as "Rotwk" its a lord of the rings rts game, althought u can still be able find other players to play with on GameRanger.com Software. sadly automatch and ranking is no longer available but we use www.Clanwars.cc league and report matches manual.

Rotwk is a masterpeice rts imo, you can check out latest video commentaries here http://www.gamereplays.org/riseofthewitchking/videos.php?game=52

This game was released 2 years ago,it is still suffering from balance problems, bugs, exploits and optimization issues.

Move on to greener pastures folks, there are better, higher quality games out there.

To be fair, that's only because they kept churning out DLC stuff while they are also trying to patch things up.

please includes infantry section reinforce cost reduction....

As the optimization rules out a certain amount of players with laptops and bad systems, you rule out a big percentage of gamers.

lol thats me. my computer is so crappy there's maybe 3 boards i can play without lagging really bad.

Agree with all of these, people need to see the glory of the Comet tank and it's insta wipe cannon.

Comet/Firefly main gun doesn't have projectile, means in a serious play, whenever a Panzer pop out smoke, you'll never had a chance to finish it by using Attack Ground, this is pretty serious draw back of Comet/Firefly.

I love comet for its good looking, but whenever it comes to a serious game, I'll go churchill, Comet just don't make the 185 fuel worthwhile.