[Winter Balance Update] SOV Feedback

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2021, 21:26 PMHannibal

No, I never said this a even single time. I disprove your point that Soviet tech is getting cheaper.

You can simply answer my points, that's all there is.

You can repeat that it were cheaper, that's not in line with the changes of the preview though.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2021, 22:15 PMVipper

Is medic cheaper?
Is T3 cheaper?
Is Mobilize reserves at T3 unlock cheaper?
Does Mobilize Reserves provide extra utility with no additional cost?

Do you disagree with my original post?

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2021, 22:18 PMHannibal

You are deflecting. I responded to all these claims already in post 1235, you are free to respond.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2021, 22:19 PMVipper

Is medic cheaper? yes or no

Is T3 cheaper? yes or no

Is Mobilize reserves at T3 unlock cheaper? yes or no

Does Mobilize Reserves provide extra utility with no additional cost? yes or no

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2021, 22:19 PMVipper

Is medic cheaper? yes or no

"Medics

Given the high manpower cost of the Soviet tech structure, which does not grant new abilities or units like the other factions, the cost of medics is being reduced. This change should make it easier for Soviet players to afford vital healing for both tech routes.

Manpower cost from 250 to 200"


Is T3 cheaper? yes or no

Tankiovy Battalion
Soviet tech costs are being adjusted with the Soviet Tankiovy Battalion having its price reduced while the price of the Mechanized Armor Kampenya has been increased. With the nerf to units such as the T70, there is no longer a reason for Soviet LVs to arrive much later than their counterparts

"Cost from 240 manpower and 85 fuel to 200 manpower and 75 fuel"



Is Mobilize reserves at T3 unlock cheaper? yes or no

No longer requires Conscript Molotov and AT Grenade upgrades

Does Mobilize Reserves provide extra utility with no additional cost? yes or no

Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2021, 04:36 AMmrgame2

Makes sense.
I dont see why others are trying to disagree?

Sov got the real wholesome buffs overall.
The only loss is T70 gets a little unattractive.

What more do they want?

Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2021, 04:40 AMgbem

this is SOV`s tech costs as of patch V5
https://www.coh2.org/topic/107284/soviet-teching-comparison

they still tech worse than ostheer

Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2021, 04:49 AMmrgame2

otherwise teching is close enough, and hard to pin down after you account for reinforcement, bigger squad sizes.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2021, 04:49 AMmrgame2

doctrine calls in,

Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2021, 04:49 AMmrgame2

sov are pretty much king of late games dig-in.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2021, 04:49 AMmrgame2

the only thing i agree is T3476 comes too late.

otherwise base teching costs are already reduced to inconsequential.

It gets even harder to pin down after you account for tier skips, reinforcement, doctrine calls in, bigger squad sizes and vet bonus

sov are pretty much king of late games dig-in.

Jump back to quoted post5 Jan 2021, 22:15 PMVipper

Does Mobilize Reserves provide extra utility with no additional cost? Yes

You want to argue that AT grenade is now more expensive? it is fine by we can agree to disagree.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2021, 04:49 AMmrgame2

otherwise base teching costs are already reduced to inconsequential.

It gets even harder to pin down after you account for tier skips, reinforcement, doctrine calls in, bigger squad sizes and vet bonus

sov are pretty much king of late games dig-in.

Jump back to quoted post6 Jan 2021, 04:49 AMmrgame2

the only thing i agree is T3476 comes too late.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2021, 16:13 PMgeneral_gawain

T34/76 desperately needs its own tech timing by splitting T4 tech cost in two parts (first and second part). Both parts added together don't change tech costs for Katiusha/SU-85 and doctrinal T4 tanks.


Two options with same outcome:

A)
- first part is a T3.5 upgrade that unlocks T34/76 in T3 Building and is necessary to build T4
- second part to unlock all other tanks with T4 building

B)
- first part is for T4 building by only unlocking T34/76 with it
- second part to unlock all other tanks with a T4.5 upgrade in T4 building

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2021, 15:19 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Maxim is still garbage. Increase the arc or lower the setup time. Long setup time, narrow arc and shit suppression should not be on the same unit.

Jump back to quoted post7 Jan 2021, 15:19 PMT.R. Stormjäger

Maxim is still garbage. Increase the arc or lower the setup time. Long setup time, narrow arc and shit suppression should not be on the same unit.