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again factually wrong . Panther does not start with better accuracy, it has worse accuracy to begin with:
Su-85 Accuracy near 0.055 Accuracy mid 0.045 Accuracy far 0.04
Panther Accuracy near 0.06 Accuracy mid 0.045 Accuracy far 0.035
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Explain how you think these stats make panther accuracy 'worse' than the SU85.
Without being utterly subjective.
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Far 0.045>0.0.4 (it also 60 vs 50 even more accurate)
Mid for SU-85 is 30 for panther is 25 so Su-85 is more accurate at 25 than Panther.
Close Panther is superior but that is at range 0 where the projectile will collide anyway so practically no difference.
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Thank you for demonstrating how much you don't understand coh2 stats.
They're not set values, range near is 0 and mid is 25, so that entire spectrum goes from 60% to 45% for the Panther (uniform scaling), while for the su85 it goes from 55% to 45% from range 0 to range 30. Panther is clearly superior from range 0 to about range 20ish depending on the math.
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lovely idea!
promoting combined arms...feeding the character of the faction.
Lovely.
give it a try!
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Never claimed they are set values stop imagining things.
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As a nerf to VSL Grenadiers, I would recommend replacing their G43 with a Volksgrenadier StG44. This reduces overlap with the G43 upgrade and still avoids the 80-damage alpha strike issue. With a worse weapon, the RA bonus could be kept the same or maybe just toned down a little, which helps define the upgrade's identity.
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Consider removing the suppression for the low angle barrage on the PW.
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Also, given ost T2 LV rush meta and how lethal it is especially against soviets who can do nothing without guards against it, perhaps its time to roll back 251 flamer cost change back to 120mun?
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LMG Grens suck at attacking entrenched positions where they'Il walk into mines and sandbags, but the faction has plenty of tools to deal with it.
So all I can think of for Grens is rewarding them for having taken up a good defensive position and helping them fend off assaults. Sandbags are out of question, but there are other ways to do it:
- Making the Ostheer bunker 50mp and moving 100mp to the upgrades. Grenadiers now have the option for a more fragile trench they have to pay for, but it can't be stolen.
- Giving their Kar98k's better accuracy against suppressed squads, from 50% to 75%, to promote combined arms play with the MG42 further.
They're Elchino's ideas, which I really like.
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lovely idea!
promoting combined arms
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Consider removing the low angle barrage on the PW.
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I'm for this as well after seeing Tightrope's vid including a test of it. Nasty enough barrage without extra suppression, your men are kept in place while the rest of the rockets arrive and no way to run out of the 'circle' as you would vs most rocket arty.
Tightrope Tests & Analysis
If you fast forward he also does a comparison between the CalliOP and the PW low-angle barrage.
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Second that. It's basically CalliOP with suppression. Obviously unreasonably strong.
Supression on this ability has to go.
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Yeah this ability has been the bane of team games for too long.
I'd be sad to see it go from an axis perspective as it is nice being able to forget about a unit as soon as it reaches vet 1, then come back to it once its vet 3 if at all.
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