Comparing them to doctrinal units is silly. I agree with Dusty.
Being a "doctrinal unit" doesn't mean shit. I don't see the Ostheer Puma outperforming the OKW Puma, or the M4C outperforming the Panzer IV, or the MG 34 outperforming... anything.
Doctrine units open up new options, it doesn't mean it's automatically supposed to be better than stock units. It isn't. |
Yes, they are different units, but they depict the SS-units in Eastern Front, and the Obersoldaten in Western Front. At least their uniforms tells us this.
Oh, you meant just the models. Then yeah, Panzergrenadiers and Obersoldaten are Waffen-SS. I don't remember what Stormtroopers and Jäger's look. Obers are also called "waffen" in the game's files, a bit less subtle than before.
Stormptroopers need to be given ober kar98s over gren ones.
I'd like this actually, and the Panzergrenadier G43. Then they're actually somewhat unique instead of just a modestly more durable Gren that can upgrade to Panzergren. I think the G43 needs something to go with it though to make it more appealing, even if the package just gives 4 of them instead of the usual 2. It's still competing with Panzergrenadier package after all. |
Isn't the stormtroopers the same thing as Obersoldaten, that is SS-units, but expressed in political correct terms. Therefore they could implement almost same stats to both units.
Stormtroopers are a completely different unit, they don't even use the same model or voices. |
They don't even get the Panzergrenadier variant? Man, Stormtroopers just seem so meh. Certainly not a worthy replacement of Troop Training, I think I would have preferred Jägers or Obers before Stormtroopers.
I didn't think Troop Training was overpowered in the first place anyway, getting a Vet 3 Grenadier squad cost you 320MP / 30FU. Yet that left the Tiger Ace alone as well. |
i am reminding you guys. p4 has better AI capability(AOE) and faster reload. we should discuss about speed, target size, acceleration, etc.
These are all negligible stats, they're so similar you would never notice a difference unless you had them side-by-side, moving at the exact same time in the exact same direction. |
It should have just been a Whirblewind so it could basically be cloned from the Centaur.
I loved the Wirbelwind and I'm sad they didn't make it Ostheer's AA / AI platform. Especially since the Ostwind was rare and the Wirbelwind was.. still rare, but twice as common as the Ostwind.
If they ported the Wirbelwind over from CoH1 to Ostheer as a replacement, I'd be quite happy. OKW can keep their Ostwind, they're the 'rare toys' faction anyway. |
In my opinion King tiger shouldn't be able to be built unless all three trucks are built and alive. That way You can't throw away a flak HQ and bank on a King tiger. Along with this huge cost increase, the king should really get a front armor buff.
Agreed with this. |
Yeah Kubel should have at least 5 fuel cost. They added fuel to it for a reason, how soon they forget. |
This map is totally borked. The starting positions should be moved to put more distance between the Allies and Axis.
Top base should be relocated to the empty lot on the upper right, resource sectors adjusted. |
You are off.
P4 mid pen is 110
110 / 215 = 51%
easy 8 mid pen is 165
165 / 234 = 71%
Reread, I was comparing P4's highest chance vs E8's lowest chance, to prove a point of how large the E8's advantage is. |