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Jump back to quoted post20 Nov 2013, 17:29 PMsluzbenik

I think if AT guns could be made more reliable, then a number of other balance items might become a lot easier to manage. Ie., right now it's not so great that Tigers only have a 40-60% chance of being rammed, but if you can at least scare them off with reliable AT, it might help.

Obviously in COH1 AT guns were a lot more reliable. Here are the differences I know:

1) In COH1, AT Guns ordered to attack a target will continuously turn without additional input from the user. In COH2, AT guns must be manually rotated or spammed with attack unit commands to get them to keep turning.
2) In COH1, the turning speed seems to be a lot faster. AT guns pick up and then continuously turn until they can shoot their target, but in COH2 they pick up, turn, then set back down even if the target has already moved out of the firing arc. COH2 AT should continuously rotate better and NOT set back down if the target is not in the firing arc.
3) AT guns in COH1, if given an attack command will continue to move forward if the target moves into the fog of war. This can clearly not always what the user wants, but it's a behavioral difference worth noting, and sometimes you MAY actually want it. It's more a less a bug, in my opinion, that COH1 AT guns "know" where their targets are even if in the FOW. This was common unit behavior though in COH1, units given attack commands will briefly follow targets into the FOW.
4) Generally COH2 AT guns movement speed seems slower, but maybe someone can look up the stats. It is nearly impossible to chase a tank with an AT gun, even with a damaged engine unless it was less than 1/3rd of a screen away. In COH1 this was much easier to do.
5) Target priorities still don't feel right in COH2. Even if you've given an attack command, if the target is out of the arc, the AT gun will waste a shot on infantry. This is really, really bad in close battles where that fire/reload time matters a lot. There's got to be some delay on firing at infantry, or a timer because chances are the vehicle target will be back in range in another second. Maybe AT Guns could be programmed to never fire at infantry as long as a vehicle is in its general vicinity or some such? Ie., visible on screen.

Please note any stats you can dig up, I really, really think the AT mechanics are at the core of a lot of other problems...

Jump back to quoted post19 Nov 2013, 17:30 PMPwnShopery

all these things have been said so many times. this game isnt playable imo.
i totally miss the coh1 feeling.
When they realized the latest patch i thought i will try 1 game after 3 months break and surprise- nothing has changed:
mg's running around mowing down evrything, followed by this t70 joke. The biggest joke now is the MP at the start. and dont Forget the steam ladder- u serious??!! (btw its broken anyways, Anthrax is still 3 # as soviet, but he hasnt even played for half a year.
no wonder so many coh1 veterans left this game.

I don't think CoH2 will ever be vCoH and honestly I don't think it should aspire to be. As VonIvan mentioned, CoH2 has strong points and weak points. We as the community should work on further improving upon the strong points while also mitigating the weak points. Trying to push CoH2 to be vCoH will only create a giant mess.