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Thread: Conscripts post 9/9 patch11 Sep 2014, 16:23 PM Overall I think they feel better. You need to treat them with kid gloves and get them in cover, but they no longer need to hug the enemy to do damage, so you can more easily use them in a support role alongside Maxims or vehicles. Once vet 3 they are actually half decent now, doing respectable damage for their cost. You still need doctrinal infantry to do the heavy lifting, but they are a bit less dead weight late game. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ninja changes for 9.9 patch11 Sep 2014, 03:28 AM Jump back to quoted post11 Sep 2014, 02:32 AMSierra I relied on them as my only RELIABLE close/mid range infantry. Never built more than one extra squad aside from the starting squad. That's the overall problem though, the Axis as a whole don't have any strong or reliable mid/close range squads to deal with the Allies in mid/close range combat. Fallschirmjaeger are far too frail outside of cover to do that job. Panzergrenadiers are... well have been pathetic for quite some time. Sturmpioneers were doing that job well in spades up until this recent nerf to them. Jaeger Light Infantry were okay but without grenades never truly shined... So tell me what exactly should Axis use for mid/close quarters? JLI now chew nails and spit napalm. These guys can cut down even Shocks with ease if they can get a modicum of support to wound them first. for 300 MP they are one hell of a powerful squad, and they got grenades besides now. Falls are a bit overpriced, but IMO units coming from buildings should have a price bump, it's other similar infantry that are underpriced. PGrens, now you're just dead wrong. The patch gave them a hefty buff and they can now stand toe to toe with almost anything save Shocks and 1919 rifles/paras. You also still have Obers, who rape anything at all ranges. You still have Panzerfusiliers who are still great at all ranges. All the units I cited also have grenades whi allow them to equalize a close range fight. And finally, Sturmpios are perfect where they are. I still use them, they still beat anything early game short of stationary rifles in cover 1v1. Used in tandem with the reliable Volks (dat vet, dat grenade) and the buffed Kubel (which is now a bit of a monster), you simply cannot say that OKW has a poor early game. Even moreso if they can get their hands on a measly 55 fuel to get out the now very powerful flak HT which acts like a super MG of massive area denial goodness. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T-34/7610 Sep 2014, 20:48 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 18:54 PMJaigen considering the cost difference shouldn't they roll them? Not that much, given that P4 also get much better AI and veterancy. For 40 mp 25fu more, I'd take a P4 over a T-34 any day of the week, especially given that at least Ostheer T3 is not a teching dead-end. That's without mentioning Ostheer having generally better AT (shrecks, PaKs, free faust, early StuG). But the main problem is the balance within the Soviet faction. T3 and T4 already aren't very attractive in most scenarios, nerfing the T-34 only exacerbates the problem and encourages the call-in meta even more. T3 has basically nothing else that is viable, and you are almost always better off getting T-34/85s or an IS-2. T4 at least is situationally viable thanks to SU-85s and Katyushas but even that is pretty much replaced by the ISU-152. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: T-34/7610 Sep 2014, 16:00 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 15:46 PMBob Loblaw The T-34/76 was fine the way it was. It would lose every time to a p4 unless the p4 fell into a trap/messed up big time. Maybe they changed it because they want it to be a purely anti infantry deal so players would have to build better tanks? Maybe they want Soviet players to only use call-in armor? At this point I'm not sure even Relic knows where they want Soviets to be. The faction is all over the place with half its units being very powerful and the other half being almost worthless. Going T3 was already risky enough, with its lack of hard AT, now there are very few situations where you're not better off keeping that fuel for actually competitive call-ins. I mean, you can get an IS-2 the same price (sans like 200 mp) it costs to get T3 + T-34/76, and the IS-2 is a better unit by a very significant margin. Just get T2, stall with Maxims and AT guns, and get your call-ins when you reach the CP cost. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Stormpioneers post patch10 Sep 2014, 14:43 PM They're still a solid unit. The survivability allows you more margin for errors, but reduced DPS also means you can't just click next to a conscript squad and be certain to defeat them. Sturmpioneers were always meant to be used along with Volks, and this combination is as effective as it ever was. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Ninja changes for 9.9 patch10 Sep 2014, 14:38 PM Seriously. Relic wants this to be Company of Maxims Into Call-Ins. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Close the Pocket10 Sep 2014, 14:33 PM They should have designed it differently. Have it be a quick, cheap, fairly powerful, rapidly recharging artillery barrage only usable on cutoff sectors. So it's still a big advantage for you to fight in those sectors, but it's not a stupid 1 click to rout the entire map bullshit ability. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: T-34/7610 Sep 2014, 04:38 AM Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 04:33 AMGreeb Seems that everyone here is forgetting that T34/76 can cap points. That alone makes up for the nerf. T4 was useless, now T3... Shortly, soviets will have the most simple tech tree ever. By virtue of teching being a complete waste of fuel . No but seriously, why would you even bother building T3 now? Halftrack comes too late, T-70 comes too late and dies too easily, now the T-34 can't hold its own against Axis armor anymore. It's like Relic wants us to Maxim/sniper spam into Shocks/Guards into call-ins every game and nothing else. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Close the Pocket10 Sep 2014, 04:32 AM Jump back to quoted post10 Sep 2014, 04:26 AMStrummingbird If the cache prevents the disconnecting stuka strike, it might be somewhat reasonable... doesn't stop recon + normal stuka on the cache + stuka disconnect, then activating the nuclear bombardment, but it's better than one player being able to totally destroy an entire team of four singlehandedly. Alternatively, don't design stupid crap like that. I really don't want building caches becoming mandatory to avoiding artillery all over the friggin map in team games. That's just asking for abusive bullshit to happen. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: SO no change to Maxim and Soviet sniper.9 Sep 2014, 22:07 PM Seriously, why is this waste of space still allowed to post? In: COH2 Balance