Profile of The_Courier

I think they are okay. Though I have problems to use them correctly. Obviously they are meant to be used mid range, but neither do I know where mid range starts and ends, nor is it as easy as to keep your unit either super close (Smgs) or on far range (Rifles). Thus I never know whether they are being used to their full potential or not.

Best use I found is to plop them in cover relatively close (IE max grenade range) to the enemy. The cover + their received accuracy makes them tough, and their dps is still very respectable. I've seen people use them like Shocks and to me that's a bad idea. Shocks are meant to charge in at knife's edge and rip things apart, PGrens require more finesse but can be quite effective.

Thanks for the chart, Milka. So as you folks can see, in exchange for a nerf to very close range capabilities (which is more of a role change, really), Sturms got a buff to all other ranges, as well as a durability buff. So let's stop saying they were objectively nerfed.

The Kubel part I get, but Sturmpios? In what way were they buffed? In fact I think they were nerfed(less DPS effectiveness at long range[still great short/med range though]).

They got tougher in exchange for less DPS, but for an assault unit I think that's actually a buff. They still got lots of DPS, the highest on an early game unit now that AssEngies are nerfed. Same reason people got defensive veterancy on PE MP44 squads back in CoH1; close range units already have DPS, what they need is toughness to actually use it.

It's not a buff that's as big as the Kubel's, granted. But I still think it's a slight buff.

Taking out Kübelwagen with the M3 is not very problematic, utilizing the back .50 cal of the M3 can melt down a Kübel quite effectively.
I flank them and drive behind them, since you have two .50 cals its not really a problem to position your M3 properly.

However us forces have no direct counter to it. Rifle company does a good job and a quick M20 is the best solution.
It's not really problematic if you can avoid blobbing and force the Kübel constantly to reposition.

With Ostheer you have to play a likewise strategy against M3 heavy play. Keep your units together and wait for T2.
Nobody does complain about that.

Most replies I read feel like "uhhh the Kübel finally turned viable from it's former piece of shit status, I actually have to adapt... NERF PLEASE"

I never got the ''Kubel was useless before'' rhetoric. It was a perfectly viable unit that had strengths and weaknesses, like any MG in the game. I used them to great effect in combination with Sturms pre-patch. It tended to die by the 10 minute mark, but most MGs save the vetted MG42 become less useful by that point anyway.

Post-patch, however, it's been overbuffed into ''pay 240 MP to dominate early game unless opponent out-microes you or builds very specific counters and rolls the dice''. My games against OKW have become much more difficult between them and the buffed Sturms, and my games as OKW are often facerolls as I a-move my Kebels and pound most Allied openings to dust. If a Soviet goes T1, I laugh at his face, bust out the AA HT to which he has no counter whatsoever and it's often gg right there. Against USF it's even easier, until the M20 comes out the Kubel has pretty much free reign as the Volks go around and cap the map. And since the US player could not win the early game, the one point in the match where he's supposed to be at an advantage, even if he destroys the Kubel and comes back I usually have a Puma, HT, and/or elite infantry by then.

I feel the unit plugs the OKW's weaknesses too well. OKW is supposed to struggle early game, since their late game is so boss. But between the reliable Volks, powerful Sturms and the now monster Kubel, they really don't have any gaps in their early game at all, and that's without having to commit to any building/doctrine like the Soviets are forced to do. Playing as them feels significantly easier than playing as any other faction, Ostheer included.

4v4 will never be balanced in any RTS. Even Starcraft's balance falls apart in 3v3/4v4, because there's so much stuff going on the tightly paced game balance cannot keep up and all kinds of nonsense can pop up.

And no, this isn't ''4v4 players are subhuman cretins''. This is just a basic reality of how games are designed and balanced. 4v4 is a valid game mode, but it's not where the competitive gameplay happens because it's not balanced for it, just like, say, League of Legends competitive gameplay happens on the 5v5 map and not the 3v3 one, because the game's design is optomized to play that way. Ranked PvP in World of Warcraft is on 10 or 15 player maps, not 40 player ones. Counter-Strike competition is mostly in 5-6 player teams IIRC. So on and so forth.

Relic could do more, I guess. Ressource scaling and all that jazz. But it's obviously a lower priority behind balancing the game for 1v1, and 2v2 to a lesser extent.