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My take on the new upcoming vehicle patch:

The gist of it is Soviets should have better end game tanks than the germans as they had better tanks in the war. This isn't western front where german Armour reigned supreme, the soviets had better tanks mid and late war one that would demolish a tiger or panther tanks such as the IS2 and ISU152.

Read a book. Even in 1945 the Soviets lost more tanks. IS-2 and ISU-152 were inferior to Panther tanks and not totally thought out. A big gun and armor isn´t everything. The IS-2 had accuracy issues as the gun had to be elevated back to the standard position after every shot to reload it. Thus accuracy was very poor. IS-2 and ISU-152 had awkward reload times, such as 2 shots and 1 shot per minute respectively. Germans had better accuracy, better crews, better reload times. Germans should have better tanks.

• One shot kill issue – this should be minimized, 1 shot squad wipes are not good for the game and isu and is2 do it on the regular, even on retreat.

That´s going to be fixed next patch.

• Tanks need to take about 1/2 the shots to die than they currently do - a king tiger could be annihilated by 2 at guns ( using AP rounds) in less time than it usually takes to kill a su 85 with a panther. The tank feel like big damage sponges and its terrible.

That should then apply to both sides, but I think that would be too fast. T-34s and Panzer IV would go down with two shots. That´s too fast for a game like CoH.

and rear armour stats mean nothing.

I agree that flanking should be more rewarded.

This needs to be changed – I want to see tanks that are technically worse get the upper hand if used wisely – this means hitboxes need to come back, proper rear and side armour stats need to come back, different forward and reverse speeds need to be implemented as well as different penetration at distance.

Agreed.

Its undeniable that ost has the infantry advantage – and I think soviets should have the end game heavy armour advantage ( doctrinal with the IS2, KV2, ISU152 ect) the tiger was not the best tank of the war – maybe on the western front but in the east russian armour ruled supreme by the later stages of the war

Disagreed. The Tiger achieved much higher kill ratios than any Russian tank. Just google tank aces. You will find German crews with upto 150+ confirmed kills. For the Russians you won´t. As I said above, a big gun and much armor on a tank like the IS-2 means nothing, if you have trouble hitting your target. Panther and IS-2 could take each other out, but keep in mind the Panther had a higher rate of fire, could keep the gun on target while reloading, had better optics, crew comfort and was usually in a defensive position. Panther should be better.

In the winter and continuation wars the Finnish achieved overwhelming things considering the uneven odds.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Winter_war

70,000 total casualties vs. 323,000 total casualties


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Continuation_war

275,000+ casualties vs. ~835,000 casualties

Makes a total of about 345.000 vs. about 1.1 mio casualties. And that with an army that had almost no armored force but some captured tanks and under 100 tanks sent to them.

The Finns surely kicked some ass.

Its great they are buffing expensive call in units at their AT role and nerfing their AI role to not squad whipe.

So now rebalance all other tanks. I persoanlly would like to see it as BALANCED as the infantry game is now. Where inferior units can beat superior units through the magic of "Micro" and "Cover". I would very much like to see a lone T34/76 beat a Panther through flanking and better micro.

Actually that´s also what I´d like to see. A Panther being flanked should be toast. Hence I suggested it´s role as an anti tank sniper with good frontal armor. Not a nascar which drives in close, shrugs off shots to the side and drives out again.

A range buff and side armor nerf would be cool. blitz should be changed with some spotting ability, similar to that on Su-85s and Zis.

- Change skins: give random camouflage - a full set / pants / jacket / poncho /no camo / camouflage cover for helmet.

I doubt that will happen. While its a cool idea, relic gave the German Grens in CoH pajamas to be easily recognized. I doubt they want to make it harder fro noobs to recognize stuff. Not that I would disagree with you, but it´s highly unlikely.

Less AoE, better RoF and you have a deal.

Actually I think if the AT capabilities of the ISU-152/ IS-2 get buffed, it should be more damage or more penetration. High reload times should be a characteristic of those vehicles.