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i think a little more should be removed, this post turned from a "let's talk about new tech suggestions" too "let's hate nullist" post

This, keyboard warriors just expose their stupidity at times and just derail threads just because of unnecessary hatred to each other, aggressiveness and conformity.

Anyways only Tier 1 simply needs to be cheaper. It is significantly much worse than its counter part (t2).

Tier 1 is simply much worse, it doesn't even depend on situation anymore. Penals are too manpower draining, which I hope get a slight price decrease since they are actually decent(they can beat grens very easily) Nullist posted some stats on another thread. But currently there is really no point to obtaining penals especially since elite infantry from Soviet's doctrine are usually present.

Snipers are the only good units to build from tier 1.

Clown Car is simply not useless however, too risky to use now. Germans can grab scout cars quickly now which is much more superior even without the cannon upgrade due to it's health. (But its 5 more fuel so I guess it can make up for it). Also M3s significantly slows down teching for soviets which is fine.

I've been saying this from alpha but I wished they scrapped the scout car and clown car concepts overall and make them as Reconnaissance vehicles. Make the german Scout car T1 ( no cannon upgrade and weaken machine gun and health) and make the mortors tier 2. This can allow strats in which the German player can make a gren squad with support with a scout car similarly to the motorcycle. Same thing with the clown car and disallow passengers going inside. This was an idea during the alpha days, it probably wont work now obviously.


Going back to topic, I also feel like T3 is much more inferior to T4 as well. I really have no problem countering German tanks unlike most Soviet players for some reason but their counters to them are seriously redundant and gets boring. Germans have much more options for core base At: shrecks, paks, stugs, PZ4, Panther .

While Soviets core base At is: at guns which only hurt medium tanks, t34, su-76 which is useless and the infamous Su85. These low amount of options are effective but it makes them boring and predictable. T3 needs a price drop but if it does receive one then t70 rush will arrive way too early and could ruin the game overall. This is why the teching balance is going to bad either way unless a radical change is implemented which relic are most likely noting going to do.


What I would like is for the Soviets to have doctirnal At infantry, sort of like American's Rangers not useless ptrs. This will create new strategies for both sides since if germans spam AP round tanks such as panthers they will be screwed unless they have anti infantry support.

This made games much more interesting in vcoh, if a player used airborne or rangers then the german player would make knights cross holders, grens, more support weapons etc. If they add Anti tank infantry for soviets as a doctrine, then they should add elite anti-infantry such as fallschimjager.


TLDR: Reduce price of T1, but maintain price with t3 so t70 rushes won't be broken. Soviet options aren't bad, their limited functions make them redundant and predictable which makes them a boring faction to play as at times. A good change for the Soviets would require a complete overhaul to the teching system which Relic won't do. So a option would be giving Soviets an Anti-tank infantry unit as a doctrine that requires 2-3cp so that way it would create more strategies on both sides. Such as Germans not spamming tanks with AP only but have AI tanks or anti-infantry on the field. If they add a (good) AT infantry for soviets, then add a good AI infantry unit for the Germans such as Fallshicmjaegers.

Also side note: The Elefant and Panther not having AI doesn't really matter due to the Soviets dont have any good AT infantry that can hurt them.


Sorry for any typos, I wrote this at late at night.

He won't, you know why, because it most likely doesn't exist.

Well you also have to take account that scripts also have to purchase Molotovs and A.T. nades which slows down teching significantly. While Germans get their rifle-nades ability for free just because of basic teching, which is obviously placed for many balance reasons so first engangements aren't significantly one sided. Molotovs and At Nades requiring researching is fine, a lot of people complain about this for some reason. Conscripts don't really scale well at late game, unless they have PPSH or you have a surplus of muntions so you can molotov any German you see. But I don't think radical changes are going to fix that, I wish that scripts acted as volks while Penal troops acted like actual grens in vcoh but T1 is simply not worth it at the momment.

Bringing back vCoh, the reason why HMG42 in that game was effective was due to it can actually suppress well, but it had a much more skinny arc. In this game, I wouldn't mind it maintaining its effective suppresion (No! not instant pin) but instead make it's arc skinny and maintain the vulnerability of the Crew's health. Overall good post

German Stuka close air support (the one that's 240 munitions) should do the same amount of damage like the Henschel HS 129 attack did in Panzer Elite Luftwaffe doctrine performed. It shouldn't target infantry instead just target vehicles only.