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Thread: Firefly need to be cheaper12 May 2018, 18:11 PM Jump back to quoted post12 May 2018, 09:36 AMinsaneHoshi Yeah it's terrible that a TD with a turret has a slow turret rotation speed espically when compared to the turret rotation speed of the jp4 and the stug. /s You fail to mention that it has strong veteranacy bonuses that directly counter these downsides with a vet 3 Buff, +40 damage, that is unparalleled. Also having a low dps isn't that big of an issue when most of the time you are just taking pot shots at 60 range and the immediately retreating. Also having a mutionions heavy ability that nukes any vehicle causes requires a lot of munitions? Boo-hoo. You paint the cost:benifit ratio to using the ability as much more balanced than it is in reality. No one is not willing to stare the munitions for a good chance to kill a tank, its benifits far outweigh the munitions cost. 1) ever used a tiger? As I explicitly outline, the Firefly have the maneuvering characteristic of a tiger. The fact that tiger is vulnerable to flank is a commonly accepted universal truth. That turret is far to slow to keep up with a flank unit, and in reality you don't rely on the turret only. Just as important to flank protection is the speed and acceleration of the chassis. The reverse turn is one of the most important defensive maneuver in coh2. Both the Tiger and Firefly are vulnerable to flank because they have both a slow turret and a slow chassis. Here's a example of reverse turn here: https://youtu.be/9yaMXWb-NqQ?t=44m28s note that the jp4 skillfully reverse turn around to face the flanking jackson and even managed to fire before the jackson could. 2)well, yes firefly have +40 damage and that is "unique", but unique itself doesn't necessary mean awesome. if we are comparing veterancy, the jp4 have access to cloak to vet 1 and that's "unparalleled". The jp4 also get vet hp bonus, something that's unique to the jp4 as well. The Firely also uniquely lack any penetration bonus in its veterancy. the different TD get different bonus. Jp4's bonus lean toward survivability. Firefly bonus is mainly DPS. They are different and good example of asymmetric balance. 3)Merely taking Pot shot doesn't score you tank kills. This further entrench the role of the Firefly as a support unit, a long range fighter. It's another reason why the Firefly need to be cheaper and take less pop to maintain. It full a important role but still a niche one. The british need other tanks like comet or churchill to drive the push, but they can't do that if both the Firefly and comet/churchill cost high population to maintain. 4) the tulip is hardy a magic ability. here's two clips of Nog using its tulip on a King tiger: https://youtu.be/9yaMXWb-NqQ?t=44m5s https://youtu.be/9yaMXWb-NqQ?t=40m40s even against the king tiger the Firefly only managed to land one hit. Those shots also depleted Nog's munition store. It's an expensive ability that takes a lot of skill and bit of luck to use. Furthermore it require a munition upgrade to even be able to use. It is not a good justification for the Firefly's extremely high native price. Jump back to quoted post12 May 2018, 08:36 AMRedT3rror Brits just need a snare on their infantry. - maybe an ability when having PIAT equipped? the firefly is still an overpriced TD even if the brits get snare. They are essentially playing catch up to the axis. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Firefly need to be cheaper12 May 2018, 08:16 AM The Firefly is too expensive for what it offer, but it's not a bad unit. first: the firefly is slow. It is infact the slowest tech TD in the game. With a top speed of 5.3 and acceleration of 1.6, it is slower than the jp4's 5.5/1.9. The Firefly is barely faster than the tiger's 5.2/1.8. Conversely it also mean the Firefly can't chase down an wounded opponent as easily. This means that Firefly can't escape if it is caught by the enemy. The british lack snare in its tech tree and need to rely on DPS to deter armor rush. second: the turret is also slow. With a rotational rate of 18 it is actually slower than the turret on the tiger (19). This means that even the panzer 4 can circle strafe the Firefly given the pz4 have both a faster chassis and a faster turret. third: The 17 pdr have a long reload at 8 seconds. It's partially offset by the 200 damage but it's still got the lowest DPS of the five tech tree TD in game. Firefly: 25.00 jackson: 25.40 su85: 29.63 jp4: 33.68 stug: 40.00 The Firefly's biggest advantage is the tulip rocket, but it is a huge munition sink. The ability require an individual upgrade which require even more munition. All this mean the Firefly is a slow TD with a lackluster DPS, that's still vulnerable to flanking despite having a turret. Its biggest advantage is its high penetration and potential burst damage, but that burst damage takes a lot of munition to use. T It should not be the most expensive tech tree TD in the game. I would argued that it's the most well designed and performance balanced TD in the game, but it is undone by the absurdly high price. Its strength of range and penetration is well justified by the low DPS, slowness, and awkwardness. The Tulip is munition hungry for a faction that's dependent on off map for artillery. 380 mp 135 fuel 12 pop is more appropriate for what the Firefly offer. speaking of pop cost, the spring patch is going to increase the Firefly pop cost to 16 pop, which doesn't make sense considering its weakness. Especially since the jpz4 and su85 are only seeing a jump to 15. That changes feels like a categorical Nerf to the Firefly because of its superficial similarity to the Jackson. It is entirely unjustified and baseless if you examine the jackson vs Firefly more closely. Despite the Firefly's strength it is vulnerable when directly attack, as TD should be. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: alternative to Bren/vicker change12 May 2018, 06:07 AM Bren Mk. II Light Machine Gun Bren Guns are being adjusted to be less potent at range, though their price is being reduced to match their new performance. • Sappers now use Tommy Bren Gun on pick up • Cost from 60 to 45 • Accuracy reduced from 0.575/0.518/0.46 to 0.575/0.4144/0.391 • Mid range reduced from 28 to 25 The patch note left out a very important part: it affects the vicker k, and it's the primary reason why the bren is turning into a nerfed dual pick up. Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2018, 10:54 AMMr.Smith It's not possible to limit picked-up weapons to 1 (Vickers-K), without making them trash (e.g,. 1 gun takes 2 slots). We have to find a solution for double-wielding Vickers-K anyway to keep them good but not OP. If a solution works for Vickers-K, then an identical solution will also work for Bren guns. Tweaking accuracy values is the just the best way to tweak DPS curves without shooting yourself in the foot. Jump back to quoted post23 Apr 2018, 11:37 AMMr.Smith You would never ever pick it up over two Bren guns, or a Bren gun and a Vickers_k. That is unless you make vickers_k as strong as LMG42 (or even stronger since LMG42 takes 1 slot), in which case it would laser down squad-member after squad-member, just like Vet2 LMG grenadiers do. So, a 2-slot vickers-k would either be trash or OP. first: those statements are self contradictory. A good weapon is UP if it require 2 slots and prevent mixed pick up, so we will turn the weapon into a Ok weapon that you will need to use two of, thus taking up both slots anyway. either way, you're using 2 slot to get a reasonable boost in DPS. Second: lmg42 vet 2 grenadier cut down enemy like laser because of their 40% accuracy bonus at vet 2. This is higher than the 30% weapon accuracy bonus on the US rifleman or the 20% weapon accuracy bonus on the tommies. Even if vickers were a lmg42 clone with 2 slot, neither the US rifle nor the UK tommies would perform as well as the lmg42 grenadier simply because of this difference in their veterancy. We can already see this in effect with the m1919a6 and the rifleman. The m1919a6 isn't a clone, but it have very similar dps to the lmg42. The conscript actually do have a 54% weapon accuracy bonus at vet 3 and a 69% weapon accuracy for the vet 3 penal. So a 2 slot vicker k with lmg42 stats would be not be OP in the hands of the Tommies or the Rifleman, but it would be overpowered for the soviet penal and conscript. So the bren are getting turned into dp-28 clone, because of problem with a dlc doctrine synergizing with an entirely different faction. This is just absurd. And really with 54% weapon accuracy the conscript will be OP with any type of weapon pick up. The bren weapon rack should be changed to a 1 slot single pick up (ie the m1919a6 solution). The vicker should be 2 slot lmg42 clone. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: better british grenade(WP and rifle grenade) 12 May 2018, 02:47 AM wasp is a nice idea but it's not sufficient. The ost have the significantly better flameHT and even then mortars and flamethrower are still the preferred option. How can the wasp be expected to serve as the british's main garrison cleaner when it is inferior to the rarely used flame HT? In: COH2 Balance
Thread: A few questions about mortars and artillery in WWII11 May 2018, 06:08 AM Jump back to quoted post19 Dec 2017, 15:16 PMultrabradman11 So with that, can anyone give me some stats about artillery (mortars particularly)? How effective were they in an active battle? How were they even aimed and fired? How can someone look at a particularly colored plume of smoke and say "welp, gotta shoot over there."? Thanks for any answers. effectiveness: fragmentation is responsible for the great majority of causality in war (50-80%). In another word: very. Even today artillery and explosive are responsible for most of the death and wounded in war. artillery sighting: essentially both the gun crew and the spotter would be using identical map. Since the both of them had identical map it make the relay of information a matter of math and science. artillery generally fire at location instead of specific target. Both the Gun crew and spotter would be using identical map and it provide a common point of reference. The gun crew would usually know of their own location, and once they know the location of the enemy it's a simple matter of math. Any well trained crew will know the degree of fire and the amount of propellant necessary to fire a certain distance. The spotter (forward observation officer) is typically trained with the use of a map and will ideally have a radio close by. Targeting smoke is usually done for the benefit of the FOO, who might not have an immediate knowledge of the location of the enemy. occasionally the mortar crew would themselves have a direct line of sight to the enemy. Note that this is largely the "American" system, who were and still is the master of artillery mission (now extended to air strike). In WW2 they had the best map, the best calculation equipment, and the most radio to call and plot artillery mission at a moment's notice. British being the second best. German and soviet were basically distance third and forth in terms of artillery coordination. They just lack the equipment and institutional knowledge of both the US and British. The Soviet didn't use wireless radio equipment at all and basically rely on pre-planned barrage. Both the German and soviet favored rocket artillery because it was cheap, easy to use and portable. However, it was impossible to achieve the accuracy of tube howitzer using the soviet and german style rocket artillery. In: The Library
Thread: better british grenade(WP and rifle grenade) 11 May 2018, 05:17 AM currently the british lacked mobile smoke until the arrival of their tank. The infantry also lacked a reliable way to clear houses as well. Given this, the the two problem can be solved by giving the sappers access to white phosphorus grenade from the grenade upgrade. This would provide the british access both smoke and incendiary weapon. The WP grenade wouldn't synergize with the flamethrower either. WP hurts both side so the WP smoke will block sapper from closing in. (and the british did use wp grenade: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/No_77_grenade) Secondly, the hand thrown grenade doesn't really fit the tommies' fighting style. They favor long range shooting even more the german. They would be better served using rifle grenade. The british rifle grenade would be distinguished from the german by having a timer and being a bit more powerful. German rifle grenade used a impact Fuse grenade while the british rfile grenade were actually regular mills bomb. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: state of british artillery11 May 2018, 02:45 AM Jump back to quoted post10 May 2018, 05:27 AMthedarkarmadillo Its previous range gave it dominance of most of the map and that range being auto fire allowed it to sway battles without any input. Its current range makes it nearly unusable because its stuck between being in range of a mobile enemy and out of range of anything. It needs range to not be a waste but it needs a micro tax to not make it over powered that would help the pit specifically, but the british will still be without any type of mobile light arty. mortars and light artillery are there to provide a counter to the mg42. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: soviet mortar should not get flare by default11 May 2018, 00:03 AM Jump back to quoted post10 May 2018, 08:59 AMMr Carmine Its already low rof gets lower when one uses the flare. I dont know the excact numbers, but in my experience a single mortar gets of about 2 shots while the flare is in the air. Again to truly gain a benifit you need other arty. Meaning extra investment in arty needed to max out its use. Also people should be carefull with what they wish for. Removing the flare could lead in bringing precision shot back. precision on the 82mm only shouldn't be that big of an issue. If your support weapon is down to the point where a "lucky" 82mm mortar can take it out, it's time to retreat. mortar is still affect by heavy cover, and both axis faction can build sandbags. They are not just for your frontline units. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: state of british artillery10 May 2018, 04:18 AM Jump back to quoted post10 May 2018, 03:40 AMthedarkarmadillo Pit would be fine if its BARRAGE range was returned to its former glory, base arty would be alright if it was quicker to respond. Being a semi on map there's no reason for it to take so bloody long to get going ontop of having an arty flare. It has the drawbacks of off maps AND the drawback of not being a global... Worst of both worlds extending the pit's barrage range doesn't solve the fundmental problem. The british is going to be stuck as a campy faction if their only tech artillery is immobile with a limited range. the investment into the mortar pit demand the british protect it. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Pack Howitzer10 May 2018, 03:08 AM Jump back to quoted post9 May 2018, 09:12 AMLago The 81mm mortar was added in the first place because having their only non-doctrinal garrison clearer locked behind Captain tech was deemed too crippling by Relic. The 81mm isn't amazing at clearing out emplacements and buildings but it can do it. Before that USF could be screwed over by a simple bunker if their early game went suboptimally. it honestly was not an issue for the USF to get the delayed pack howitzer. the USF will always beat the wehr to the midpoint in any 1v1 game, and the rifleman is better than the grenadier in an urban environment. It's extremely unlikely for the wehr to lock down an entire 1v1 map. If you're in that of a hurry you can still get grenades and smoke. in the early game only the stormpio can actively beat the rifleman at close range. We already tried to give the USF a wehr 81mm clone. It break the game balance. Jump back to quoted post9 May 2018, 19:27 PMKatitof What buffs? They want to make it into inferior mortar that can't retreat. On a faction that already have a mortar. That can retreat and is there to buy from get go. They'll have equal range, equal damage, but one can retreat and other can't. This is the one instance, where modders have absolutely no idea what they are doing. the 81mm needs to go and the smoke be given back to the rifleman. the pack howie needs the ability to retreat. In: COH2 Gameplay