Well, I could say the same about You. You want to boost the faction which is very strong. Infantry sections just got buffed and you keep suggesting there is something wrong with them. Somebody just needs to give counterarguments as there is a real risk that buffing infantry sections will derail the whole game.
Counter argument base on your... Feeling ?
And nobody here, including me are asking for sections buff, we move on from that by
a long ago, it just you are in back foot. Infantry sections just got "buff" because they were over neft, a point already been proved. The "buff" include 10mp discount and 5% at last vet.
And "very strong" is not so fit with the UKf as a description, since the faction has the lowest player base and win rate in aall mode. It have "strong units", which all has been neft/standarized, while still left with a bunch of gaps/missing pieces in the line up.
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It is not. I lose mainly to OKW not to ost.
It is only what you think, if you want to prove it then make your own thread about ost. This thread is about infantry sections and i believe that anyone here already done with arguing about unit's performance and move on to discuss about how to improve the unit and maybe the whole faction. You are derailing the thread. |
It is literally unbreakable. Normal churchills hp is well justified with a non-potent gun that opens the way of PaKs and PGrens.
And the stock churchill is balanced that way, though. It have a non potent gun, justify by durability and cost/pop. I dont ask for change with it.
For croc. good luck with your PGrens and PaKs.
If you are using pak and pgren to counter croc then you do it seriously wrong, man. I dont use PIAT sapper to counter hettez for the same reason.
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Not really, croc cost is in line with tiger, is-2 and pershing.
I was replying about the normal churchill, though. |
Both fair points, not sure how I missed the KT. Regardless, all other heavies had their rear-armor nerfed a while back to at most 140.
As said, all other heavy have significant better gun and front armor, sure they are more expensive and some are doctrinal but they have their own strong to justify the cost an position (stock or doc), so does the chill. |
Jeeez - I'm like 200-400 UKF player in 1v1 without using shotcuts on the keyboard. And I'm a total noob not using any meta with them. Trust me - they are much better than ost.
But to the ponit - they really have everything ost player have always wanted.
I'm not going to comment on you rank or lv, or skill, i can honestly say that i have 1500+ hours of gameplay UKF only but It doesn't matter at all.
To the point - i can confidently say that ost really have everything that an UKF player like me always wanted. Anyway, again, this is just "grass is greener on the other side" issue.
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I already know that, what I ment was, nerf the main gun even further, if people love their damage sponge armor so much, let's balance it in indirect ways
I stand for correction but i think Churchill croc is about 20% less durable than the stock churchill due to HP. So if wr following your ideas of keep it as damage spong by neft gun, i think it should get buff in HP to match normal churchill ? |
They're also all doc-locked and significantly more expensive units, too; of course they're going to be more powerful. It doesn't excuse the churchill sitting far above the curve.
And we are talking about the churchill crocodile, aren't we ? As far as i know, it is doctrinal and cost 230 fuel.
If you want to bring the normal churchill in the argument then dont forget thet KT is stock, too, so the "They're also all doc-locked" need a correction. |
The whole faction is designed around all concepts that were asked for by ostheer players and rejected (close range grenade, 5th stock man gren squads, ability to build sandbags, heavy stock tanks, etc.)
Typical "grass is greener on the other side".
Infantry sections's nade had a minimum range now and it is standard frag, ost have nuke nade with no minimum range on a cqb specialist which can be built from T0.
Sandbags can be built by pio, which also come from T0 so stop pretending thay ost cant get access to them.
Edit: Like some lad above said, UKF use to be worse ost with infantry sections as an exception, now they just be bad ost.
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Very interesting, that’s a lot of indirect fire.
I’m more interested in 1v1 builds though, but I didn’t specify that. Regardless, that’s an interesting build although it sounds like it might be weak to aggressive light vehicle play, such as double 222 or a Luchs-Puma combo.
As i said, we cover each other, i usually put down an early bofor to form a strong point so the high number of indirect from my friend can be safely deploy and counter indirect spam from enemies. Right after the bofor i will built AT while my friend go for ranger and grap some zook. |
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