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Sniper play is the least fun part of COH2. If I wanted to play a sneaky MOBA-style game, I'd play a MOBA, not COH2.

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If someone brings one out, it forces you to make a counter or have a lot of MP bleed. If anything, they're too effective.

As for them being fragile, the Wehr sniper shrugs off 50cal bullets as flesh wounds, both from a 50 cal mg and from a M20. The Soviet sniper isn't as durable but it still seems to take upgraded Grens, PF's, or something like a 222 to get them. Increasing their durability is a terrible idea.

Where do you find "durability" mentioned in that post?

Both the USF Halftrack and OKW Halftrack need a buff considering how vulnerable they can be, they need to see more action and to scale properly.

OKW FHT is underperforming. It states that it is supposed to be "efficient vs infantry, lights and AA.

It is definitely good against AA but infantry not so much but terrible against lights.

That is why it needs a damage buff in order for it to better combat against infantry and lights. Especially when its accuracy is not so good at range among other factors that make it unreliable against infantry.

It has a hard time Vetting due to the performance. It only vets well when shooting planes but against any other forms, it is unreliable.

Currently FHT cant deal with infantry properly in mid nor long range. Close range is its main and only opportunity really to get kills.

Either increase AoE to 2 (to improve just against infantry) or increase damage to 20 (to better combat infantry and lights).

Move effectively the Vet 2 stats to Vet 0. It needs that change. Just the damage and accuracy. Surpression on Vet 2 shall remain.



USF AA Halftrack is great against infantry although it has a hard time doing AA but in a good position it is great. Can simply combat lights better than FHT.

Its current performance is good and it means that its veterancy gain is good which it is, since acquires faster and more efficiently than the FHT does. Imo.

Set ups faster that it can pull of shots with main gun faster against lights and does drastically even more damage. Main gun does 40 damage per shot and including the 2 other guns sums it up to a max total of 80 damage per second (Depending on the lights armour), this damage is effectively useful against vehicles but infantry it does around 40 damage per burst and lower.

All in all, it is more efficient.

Can kill infantry far better close range and even in mid range. Can do so while on mobile and stationary. Does not really matter but it does the job better.

I think in addition what both Halftracks needs, is an upgradable purchase where they can increase both armour and health which costs 60 ammo. Would be nice for them to be able to scale late game.

Oh, when you acquire last tech, the upgrade option is free. Just to create more incentive in order to use it even late game.

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I think Cromwell is pretty good at the moment.

Great speed, good against infantry and supportive.

Though it has a harder time challenging OKW PanzerIV but All in all it is fine.

What would be interesting though is to have an MG upgrade on top of it. Would be nice to see for Brits.

Upgrade offers Vickers MG, costs 60 ammo.

That would be a nice addition/buff to increase its effectiveness vs infantry.

Thx for fixing the Title ShadowLinkX37

So, snipers. It is a unit which we can all say that has an impact on the field but it is not seen as much as it should since it is often risky and sometimes it does not really pay off.

We know that at the moment, using Allied snipers and I am not trying to be biased or anything but often it pays off more since since they usually have to pick off a squad with most often (consists of) 4 units and sometimes of 5.

Currently the Wehr Sniper, there is really no point in using it when it takes longer to counter most units that consists between mostly 5 and up to 6 units.


So, my suggestion to make Wehr Sniper and other snipers to be more attractive and more viable is by starting to make their ability costs cheaper and to arrive in effectively earlier.

Probably add an additional ability to make them more attractive to those who only have 1 ability.

I mean it is already a huge gamble purchasing a sniper especially when it is the most vulnerable unit and costy unit game.


Here is how the price of the abilities costs:

Wehr Sniper "Fire Incendiary Explosive Round" should be available Vet 0 and costs 45 ammo.

But once it achieves Vet 1, the price of the "Fire Incendiary Explosive Round" should cost 30 ammo (45 to be honest is too much compared to British Sniper "Critical Shot" which costs 30 ammo).

So that it has more usage and usefulness. It is too much at the moment and I think it should get that price decrease once it achieves Vet 1.

Maybe, to even make it pay even more off, it should have in addition when it acquires Vet 1, "Tripwire Flares". Costs 10 ammo. Same ability as Conscripts "Tripwire Flares".

WEHR Sniper becomes a more viable supportive unit that is able to pick off units better due to its current difficulties.


SU sniper has "Flare" should be also available Vet 0 and costs 40 ammo as it currently does.

Once it acquires Vet 1, it should cost 25 ammo.

Add ability to put "Flares on Cap points" which is for "free" and it should be available already Vet 0. It has a cooldown of 90 seconds but it is easy to place by only 3-5 seconds. The ability should be like what OKW has with the flare on cap points.

SU sniper becomes their best and supportive recon unit (recon which they dont have really).



UKF sniper. It is hard to say what it should get because I believe it is the most useful sniper considering how extremely effective it can be and its abilities, both infantry and vehicles.

So, the Critical shot can be acquired Vet 0 but the cost is 45 ammo but once it acquries Vet 1 it costs 30 ammo.

In that way, it is useful against vehicles in the beginning making it another viable AT option for Brits.

Coordinated fire price stays the same as it is useful already enough. Especially when you can catch the enemy by surprise. No need for price decrease.

Add ability also to British Sniper, to put "Flares on Cap points" which is for "free" and it should be available already Vet 0. It has a cooldown of 90 seconds but it is easy to place by only 3-5 seconds. The ability should be like what OKW has with the flare on cap points.

EDIT

Changes to make Snipers in general a more supportive unit rather than a cheesy assassin! Nerfs and changes.

Nerf their kills per min is a must since it is OP.

I think they should nerf the Snipers potential to one shot everyone including those behind cover (expect against snipers, sniper sniping each other should still be one shot even behind cover).

I think the cover feature should take in more effect for squads against snipers, more protection against snipers.


So an enemy squad (not sniper) in green cover should apply 0.5 Recieved accuracy and 0.5 received damage

And yellow cover should be different for snipers, Recieved accuracy instead is 1 but the damage is 0.5 received damage. (Yellow cover is usually 0.5 Recieved accuracy and 1 recieved damage). Tell me what you think about this?

It is to increase resistance against snipers.


They should play a more supportive role than a role that can pick off easily anybody from anywhere behind something.

It should be more of a supportive kind of unit.

Manpower price decrease from 360 to 330. I think that would compensate for starters.


At the moment, I think SU and WEHR sniper abilities are too expensive. They should be more cheaper.

Abilities should play more a crucial role as a sniper instead of kills which it is I admit, too good at the moment.


In summary:

Nerfs completely their firepower, chances of getting kills with units behind cover is significantly reduced. Damages units behind cover (both covers only applying half damage) rather than killing. Good nerf and adjustment imo.

Plays more a support role rather than a sole cheesy assassin.

Abilities have more signifcant use and impact(as a means to play more supportive) use when the price of their abilities is decreased as well as added (for SU and WEHR, to fulfill more of a support role especially UKF).

Well, obviously because the IR STG44 and LMG 34 upgrades are way too powerful to unleash as early as ~6-7 minutes into the game (easily achieved with team games resource inflation).



Fitting them into your build easier, and getting them early when enemy infantry isn't fully vetted and upgraded yet so they can start working towards their crucial vet 2 as soon as possible. If used from behind heavy cover, stock Obers should quite easily win vs all Allied infantry at that time.

Maybe you are right.

Anyway the changes the Devs made All in all is a step towards improvements. That is really good and important. Good work.

Lets see how it is when it is released.



Does anyone know by the way when it is definitely going to be released?

Hopefully they will release it by this weekend. It would be great since they have stated that it was their last mod preview for the September patch.