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Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - British Feedback12 Apr 2021, 09:55 AM Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 09:32 AMVipper Commandos: Increase deduction radius or change camo the unit very easily navigate late game battlefield cloaked. So do stormtroopers, partisans, vet3 barfinders. Not exclusive to commandos. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Ostheer Feedback12 Apr 2021, 09:43 AM Jump back to quoted post12 Apr 2021, 08:43 AMmrgame2 doesn't fortified already have recon planes and hull down increases sight? im happy with keeping smoke in fortified Iirc hull down doesn't increase sight, only range and reload. So you have a very long range elephant that is blind. But yeah, perhaps MOP should replace the recon plane then, it could both provide passive (camo it on the frontline) and active sight (flares). The doctrine lacks an off map arty anyway, so the recon plane isn't that integral. Also, I would be really grateful if hull down had this range indicator implemented: In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Volkssturm12 Apr 2021, 06:33 AM But, which faction and most importantly what would they bring to the table? In: Lobby
Thread: Commander Update Beta 2021 - Ostheer Feedback12 Apr 2021, 05:32 AM I agree that 3 recon options in Jaeger armor is bit too much (spotting scope, MOP, recon plane), once again I propose moving one of the abilities to Fortified armor, the other Elephant doctrine, in an attempt to make it a somewhat equally intersting pick. Imo the MOP would fit in there as Fortified armor relies more around defensive play. It would replace panzer tactician. As for the gap in Jaeger, it could be filled in with something that's more offensive to fit the theme, but rather situational. I'm thinking of either Counter attack tactics from MobiDef or Tactical advance. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: OKW Salvage12 Apr 2021, 05:12 AM Damage dealt by a pair of AT guns, even under fire, needs a rework, it currently completely destroys full health team weapons in a matter of seconds, it either needs a longer time to kill or better, only work on husks. The amount of effort it can take sometimes to destroy team weapons for two AT guns to take all that away is a bit too strong. In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Comparing COMET and PANTHER11 Apr 2021, 12:00 PM Penetration! The comet is indeed great at being a generalist, but its pretty bad compared to the panther when it comes to penetrating heavier armor, such as the panther's. Playing enough with both tanks one tends to notice the tendency of bounces. (also, panther can do some AA too, as UKF you have to build a separate, 10 pop tank just to have any AA). In: COH2 Balance
Thread: Encirclement doctrine10 Apr 2021, 18:20 PM Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2021, 17:49 PMPip Both those points would generally have Caches placed on them though, surely? I'd have thought that would provide enough of a buffer to allow you to react and prevent a massive cutoff manoeuvre from succeeding, though I haven't really seen it all in action. I haven't actually tested it; Does the Stuka Divebomb both destroy a cache and decap the point underneath unsupported? Well, both of those maps happen to have buildings nearby to spawn stormtroopers from. If no one notices them coming out then you can hide them to wait for the schreck upgrade. The schreck + flame nade destroys a chache fairly quickly (90 muni, ~14 secs). A flame nade + the mp40s firing can be enough too (30 muni, ~23 secs), tho this gives them a longer opportunity to react. You can also use the storm's smoke nade to keep them on the cut off points as long as possible,for the longest ctp active time (max 45 secs). As for the stuka bombing it can only damage a chache but can't destroy it at full health, it does like 1/5 damage to it. However there were cases when the chache was so damaged, that the stuka both took it and neutralized the point (and iirc those are also the times when ctp tends to act weird, either not activating at all, or even attacking neutral territories). Fun fact: the actual stuka bombing (200 muni) does 4/5 damage to chaches! There are plenty of ways to defends against storms, apart from building chaches. Destroying or wiring off the buildings they can spawn from is one of them. Storms also hate mines cuz they can't see them, this can also help against vehicles diving in with breakthrough. USF can build firing positions to look over cut off points. Another good strategy is that if you deploy a AA HT against planes, then put it next to a cut off point, generally it can still do its job while also protecting the point. There are two other ways which I think can be effective, but haven't seen being used. One of them is putting a scout vehicle around the cut off points (M3, M20, UC), I mean they are generally cheap and have a low population value and they can detect storms from a fair distance away. Another way that may work is deploying a vet3 major (it's not hard to get them to vet3, just bring them along with your combat units), they can completely prevent a point from being captured, not even the stuka can neutralize it (just tested, it's ridiculous)! In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Encirclement doctrine10 Apr 2021, 09:46 AM Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2021, 05:51 AMMr. Someguy Encirclement doctrine actually works? Consider me impressed. I assumed it would be ridiculously difficult to actually pull off a complete cutoff behind enemy lines and hold it long enough to make a difference. Indeed it works, especially on maps like red or white ball where you have to cut off only two points, and those points are generally a safe distance behind the frontline. I always pick encirclement over the elephant on those maps. Even if I don't manage to pull it off I can still enjoy using one of the sneakiest doctrines in the game, ambush camo for defensive play and sprinting stormtroopers to get behind their weapon teams. The breakthrough ability also saved by bacon before, putting a vehicle on a victory point to stop its capture. I also figured out that it doesn't work with stolen vehicles. Jump back to quoted post10 Apr 2021, 09:43 AMEsxile The problem is not the way to do it but the result. To keep the commander balanced there is a necessity to make it works but the result is problematic. I don't think there is anymore a good reason for rewarding cutting off your opponent annihilation of everything catch on those territories. In fact cutting off your opponent is a classic mechanism in the game but it shouldn't be give such reward even for a heavy munition cost. I have experinced multiple CTPs from allied perspective too and in my experience if you start pulling out immediately, I mean as soon as you realize you can't stop the ctp from happening, then you can save your army generally unscratched, the exception being static defences. In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Encirclement doctrine9 Apr 2021, 23:21 PM Jump back to quoted post9 Apr 2021, 21:46 PMEsxile Why this doctrine hasn't been proposed with modification? Is the balance team planning to do something with it in the next version of the patch? Quoting commander rewamp patch note: Breakthrough To encourage the use of this ability which requires fuel, a reload bonus is being added to allow vehicles to make an aggressive push. -Now provides a +15% reload bonus when active xD In: COH2 Gameplay
Thread: Renforce button need to change9 Apr 2021, 14:35 PM Looks at player card: sub 1000 Looks at the topic of the thread: complaints about having to click the same button more than once Me: confused In: Lobby