Feuersturm and a Hetzer rush are incredibly good in urban maps and quite frankly nearly unbeatable. Not every doctrine has to be good across all modes. It's a specialized doctrine and it fulfils its role very well.
The Hetzer without Panzer Authorization would likely be too powerful because it 1v1s ATGs and AT infantry and Allied light won't be able to take it out with a Volksgrenadier and/or Raketen around. Especially not in urban maps. Its current timing is already good when rushed (with good fuel control) and it has considerable shock value.
that´s why we see this alot in compedetive play... oh wait.
Why the hell should i not just wait for the P4? |
Only in trade of loosing non doc KT. Faction with all in stock?
idk what people have with stupid KT no one plays this thing outside of 4vs4 scrup games...
Why invest in something that gets hardcounterd when hitting the field.
Put it in Elitepanzer
And remove Sturmtiger from the Game ... its already a useless unit. |
UKF's changes are minuscule. They won't change the faction.
I admit, it's quite shocking to read that people are already panicking that UKF are going to be OP in every game modes. These were tiny little unworthy changes, and UKF will still be the laughing stock of everyone in every game modes.
they are very strong in 2vs2 AT.. maybe u try some games as OST |
Don't you think that the fact is has 5 men crew and can retreat and can camo needs to be reflected in the price?
And the fact that every tank 2 shot it frontaly ... is that also reflected?
While Zis tanking 5 Tiger shots... |
They are by far the worst engineer squad in the game, why can't the price be raised to 200 and they get ppshs(with the same stats as German pioneers mp40s)
Thoughts?
I mean they're called Combat engineers but they have almost no potential to actually perform well in combat if you don't build like 6 of them, in which case it's more of a meme.
And then ? make the already STRONGEST faction even better .... what the fuck is wrong with you??? |
It only works okay in HE mode, ideally with a ZIS, SU85, 1-2 Cons and one squad of Guards around it. The rotation and speed are too slow for it to be decent AT. Somehow, the people that are complaining about the ISU think it not having a turret isn't a big deal, while at the same time they claim the JP4 is garbage because it doesn't.
I've had pretty mixed results with it. Against 100 level players, it gets stalemated a lot by heavy TD's. Against 1000 level players, I sometimes get over 100 kills with it.
In AT mode, it's a worse SU85 that costs nearly twice as much.
Than just remove the At mode. the commanders are strong enough without *special soviet snowflake* abilities
Its not only that this unit fuks everthing in turbo mode noooo. it just come with counters to its counters.... like is its not easy enough to win with stock SU ... but with this overperforming piece...
so after the Tiger nerfs we will see this thing in every 2vs2 game ... yeah! |
- Pak Howitzer still in need for nerf
- Scott still retarded cancer unit, either make it 320 HP or remove smoke. It's WAY too hard to kill this thing.
- Airborne Combat group still too cheap. It's crazy how many infantry units USF can field if they go double officer + combat group drop. It's like playing vs two armies at once when you consider that every one of these USF units is better than their Axis counterparts. (Pak Howi >>> Leig, mortar; USF Paratroopers >>> any infantry Axis can field in early game; Riflemen and officers>>> Volks/Grens)
- USF butterfly bombs still too cheap and spamable.
- Soviet late-game will be even more OP than before because of nerfed Tiger. Meanwhile, Soviets can rely on ISU and now buffed KV2. IS2 is going to remain strong too.
- Zis barrage should be slightly more expensive.
- WC51 still too much DPS and too cheap.
- UKF still no decent indirect. The changes will not fix them.
Overall I think Allies are going to be even more OP if the patch goes through as it is. There needs to be some nerfs to USF and Soviets, they will remain way better than UKF and Ost. They will also be slightly stronger than OKW and so some small nerfs to their overall strength would be fine.
So nothing changed...at all .. well done good job |
You have Elephant/Jagdtiger in teamgames. L2P
that are useless against the IL2 bombing run which come "funny suprise" with it.
Just get a random t34 and make the ELe/JT uselese by one click...
sounds fair too me |
İ hope not.İts is pure oshteer danedream by relic. Thats buffs for ost is very very big and game killing. İ hope they will reserve changes.
When danedream helps to get a better game...
maybe we will see some Tournament play that is not only OKW against all. |
Hi, I just got 11250 supplies, and I'd like to buy some wehrmacht commander for that price, any propositions?
what game mode?
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